(January 14, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(January 14, 2015 at 12:38 am)Drich Wrote: It means:
to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment
What where those promises?
Prophesy concerning atonement. If you like I have a few sites that can step you through all of these prophesies.
"To cause god's will to be obeyed as it should be"? You mean, the god's will that was laid down in the old testament, for whom the only previous expressions of will that Jesus could be referring to would be in the old testament?
Again, the issue isn't the words, so much as your interpretation of them; your assertion that causing god's will to be obeyed means discarding the previous record of that will is bizarre, and not supported even in the translation you've given here.
No we do not discard anything.
I think the problem you guys are having is that you see the law as a list of requirements to get to heaven. The old catholic idea of a good old fashion Check list theology. where one has to follow the list to obtain the goal.
This is not what is in the bible. Paul shows us how to keep/fullfill the whole law and still have attonement be the means to our salvation and not the check list theology be the means in which we are saved. But for this we you must be willing to read through the book of romans from beginning to end.
The short answer lies in the understanding that the 'law' was more than just a list of do's and dont's. The law also made room for attonement. You guys only see the do's and dont's. If you live by the whole law then attonement is apart of said living. If one has the perfect attonement, then the law ceases to be the measure of righteousness, because ALL SINS Are Forgiven. So what then is judged? The Heart.
Again the rich young ruler showed it is possible to live by the law and not give God your Heart. God doesn't want anything to do with that type of person per Paul again in the book of Romans.
