You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!!

[Esquilax]

No we do not discard anything.

It's a law that's supposed to apply to humans, being that they're under god's dominion, and you're asserting that it doesn't apply to you, only some other group. That's discarding.

I think the problem you guys are having is that you see the law as a list of requirements to get to heaven. The old catholic idea of a good old fashion Check list theology. where one has to follow the list to obtain the goal.

I think the problem is that you'd rather assume what we think rather than listening to us explain it. I'm well aware that the biblical criteria for salvation is, generally speaking, belief; the bible characterizes us all at sinners, for whom the grace of Jesus allows one into heaven despite this. The issue is that the word of god encompasses more than just what'll get you into heaven. In fact, taken within the context of Jesus' salvation all of the bible is merely optional, stuff to be strived for with the understanding that failure is inevitable due to sin.

But optional or not, it's still all there, and it's characterized as the word of god, dictating what's moral and what's not. As a christian, I would presume that doing what is moral, in that it aligns with the word of god, would be high on your list of priorities regardless of whether you're saved or not, but you make excuses for why you don't have to deal with it, showing in the process your lack of care for the actual content of the bible's righteous morality, over making sure you have the reward at the end.

This is not what is in the bible. Paul shows us how to keep/fullfill the whole law and still have attonement be the means to our salvation and not the check list theology be the means in which we are saved. But for this we you must be willing to read through the book of romans from beginning to end.

Sure, but if god provides some optional extras for living a good life, things that he considers to be good, then observing those things should be a no brainer if you're a christian, right? But what's actually happening here is that you're a christian who has appointed yourself the arbiter of who is and isn't a christian on the basis of whether or not they follow the bible, while yourself ignoring large swathes of it because it's not the bare minimum you need to do to get into heaven. It's fascinating, really; who's less of a christian, the guy who sincerely follows his religious beliefs even where they stray from the bible, or the one who invents reasons not to follow the bible beyond what he absolutely has to to get the reward at the end of his life?

The short answer lies in the understanding that the 'law' was more than just a list of do's and dont's. The law also made room for attonement. You guys only see the do's and dont's. If you live by the whole law then attonement is apart of said living. If one has the perfect attonement, then the law ceases to be the measure of righteousness, because ALL SINS Are Forgiven. So what then is judged? The Heart.

"God holds these things to be morally good, but I don't have to do them because I'll get the reward he gives me either way."

And you question other people's commitment to christianity?