(January 16, 2015 at 2:12 am)Drich Wrote: As old as you or 'science' needs it to be. Makes no difference to me, or God.
Science doesn't need the Earth to be any age; it calculates its theories based on the evidence at hand, not on some conspiracy to deny your god.
Quote:Actually if 'he' can show you don't know, yet you believe science hold the answer, then "he" can demonstrate that you are a man of faith.
Science is probabilistic, and so is my view on knowledge. Outside of very simple things, absolute certainty is nearly impossible, as a rational person one must always be honest about the limits of the evidence and the possibility that new evidence will be discovered. I'll change my position the moment new evidence is presented that contradicts what I believe, and that is why no faith is required; faith is belief in spite of evidence, and I refuse to have that.
However, it's equally true that poking holes in what I believe is not evidence for what you believe, Drich. Even if what you say here is one hundred percent true, even if you did show that I'm a "man of faith," all that is is a tu coque fallacy, and it's no more reason to believe in your god than if you'd said nothing at all.
Quote:If your are indeed a man of faith, then I ask why not God?
Because "some evidence that isn't absolutely certain," which is what science has, is not the same as "no evidence at all," which is what god has. Do you seriously not see that the statement "if you're willing to believe in one thing based on incomplete evidence, then why not this other thing that has no evidence period?! Some evidence and no evidence are the same thing!" is completely insane?
Quote:How so? The flood bottle necks humanity killing of monkey man leaving to fossilize in the mud while man with a soul moves on.
Because if you're going to accept that evolutionary biology happened then you also need to accept the realistic biological frameworks that would support that; biologically speaking a genetic bottleneck of the kind that the flood would end us up with would lead to a population collapse, even not factoring in predation and other realities of the ecosystem. A global flood could not result in the diversity and fossil record we see today, but rather the continuation of the mass extinction the flood itself would have caused.
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