RE: Indoctrination & Mental Gymnastics
January 16, 2015 at 3:42 pm
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2015 at 4:03 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 16, 2015 at 3:14 pm)Lek Wrote: You haven't asked me a question yet,I did...a quick slew actually......
(January 14, 2015 at 9:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Do you know your own mind? How can you state that most agree with your christology if you have to research your own christology? How can your christology be the measure of a True Christian™ if you don't even know what it is? How can you know that you are a True Christian™ if you don't know your own christology, by which you judge the True Christianyness™ of others?It's one thing to decline to answer, for whatever reason, another to claim that nothings been asked. I can already see that you have some sliver of an idea as to what you did, with the comments towards the end of your post...but we'll get there in a moment.
Quote:so I'll comment on your statement above. Here's my understanding on the nature of Christ. He is God and man - fully God and fully man. Together with the Holy Spirit, he is one with the father. Each person of the Trinity is a distinct being, but they are in essence one God. In his role as a man, he gave up certain privileges of his divinity and became subject to the Father.That's not exactly an exhaustive representation of all of the potential choices just within existing and popular christian sects christologies (laying aside the defunct and the fringe) and you've already excluded, just as a few notable examples; Episcopalians, Unitarians, LDS, Witnesses, Swedenborgians(there's actually one of those here for you to hammer out your christological differences with), and some subsets of both Pentecostals and Quakers. None of these groups are, according to you, True Christians™.
Your comment also puts to the lie the statement you made -in this thread- when you said that faith in christ was all that matters. All of the groups above affirm faith in christ.
Quote: If a person has a doctrine that states that Jesus was not God or was a lesser god, then they don't agree with traditionally accepted christian doctrine.With the -possible- exception of the LDS above, none of those folks hold that Jesus was not god, or was a lesser god. If you had even the slightest understanding of nuance you'd realize that this statement doesn't even apply to the LDS.
Quote: I said in an earlier post that this is my opinion. I'm not God and I don't know their hearts. I leave that up to God. In the context of my earlier statements, I was relating my opinions to those who didn't believe that Jesus was one with and equal to the Father. I'll admit that, within the context of the thread, I was being narrow, but I'm open to any questions you want to ask.There's your shame, I knew you had some. Are there any other groups of christians you'd like to exclude through doublespeak...or have we reached the limit of your knowledge of christology with the statement above? I can supplement for you, if you'd like to see how small your community of christ might be, if you're still enjoying this exploration of christology and True Christianity™.
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