RE: 'Drich, which of the millions of different christian denominations goes to Heaven?'
January 18, 2015 at 3:34 am
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2015 at 3:39 am by Drich.)
(January 18, 2015 at 2:22 am)Nope Wrote: So, did god change, Drich? According to the bible your god doesn't change
No he did not.
What you guys don't seem to get is that attonement is and always has been the key to the law. It's always been apart of the law. You can have a list of thou shalt nots without away to attone for those who do those thou shalt nots.
(January 18, 2015 at 2:25 am)Roxy904 Wrote: " I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)
"Whoever curses father or mother shall die." (Mark 7:10 NAB)
Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. -1 Peter 2:18
5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. -Matthew
Jesus is always in perfect agreement with the Father (John 10:30), so we cannot argue that war was only God’s will in the Old Testament. God does not change (Malachi 3:6; James 1:17).
Anything to say, Drich?
Actually I have a couple of questions.
What is this spam of verses in reference to?
Why did you feel the need to quote several different translations?
Why are the quotes (some of them) incomplete?
Why have all of the. Been taken out of context?
What are you trying to say with this mess?
(January 18, 2015 at 3:05 am)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:(January 18, 2015 at 1:56 am)Drich Wrote: Not familiar with liberal or conservative interpretations huh?
Well in order for a Fred phelps to get a god hates fags message out of the bible he must cut and paste various passages from all over the bible, and pull them Together with a sermon. The same thing is done with a liberal message. I do things differently. In that I use whole chapters and even books to outline what it is I teach.
You are not different from Fred Phelps in how you come to your conclusions. The only difference is the conclusions you've drawn.
Quote:You truly can't be this dense.
Do you understand the following?
The law is more than a list of do's and don't's the law also includes attonement.
That's been my point all along. You say that you're atoning, but you know you're not being sincere. Someone who is sincere about atoning for not doing the dos, and doing the don'ts, will try with every fiber of their being, to model their behavior in the right way. Someone who is insincere will try to interpret the law such that their behavior doesn't violate it, or that the law itself isn't applicable to them. That is what you do.
Quote:The do's and don't only make up 1/3 of the law. What of the other 2/3s? In your understanding of the bible it does not even seem that your aware of it. In your fail athesis version of the law, what do you do with the parts of the law that deal with repentance and attonement?? You know that parts that Jesus said would never go away?
Would you accept the apology of someone who immediately returned to doing the behavior you didn't want them to do? If they never stopped? If they never had any intention of stopping?
Come off it, you fraud. You can't fool the omniscient if you can't fool me.
Why can't you address the point I have made to you ten times now? Why do you keep skirting the issue? Is it your belief that I don't know that attonement is written in the law, or is it you do not know how to respond so you keep talking in circles in hopes that I follow one of your red herring topics and drop the attonement bit?