RE: 'Drich, which of the millions of different christian denominations goes to Heaven?'
January 19, 2015 at 3:15 am
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2015 at 3:46 am by Drich.)
(January 19, 2015 at 2:54 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:(January 18, 2015 at 2:12 am)Drich Wrote: Oh, yeah? my cousin is a colonel in the Rangers, and he's the one who told me that. He said when ever they went into an area with known hostiles durning the push on Baghdad, the chaplains would come and offer prayers, not one of the men in his company refused the chaplain when they were under fire.
You sure brag about a lot of your relatives and their service to the country. What happened to you? Clubfoot? Asthma? Failed the ASVAB?
I fought fire with plenty of religious and non-religious men, I can tell you that not one of us asked for a chaplain when we ran into the burning building.
Probably because even my brothers who believed in your god knew that he wouldn't be as useful as a charged handline, in those sorts of situations.
I graduated in '93. Clinton was down sizing the military (shutting the Cold War bases down) my cousin was frank, he told me I would not make good officer material, which meant infantry, and at the time their was no future in it. He told me the best I could hope for was to sign up and train as a mechanic which paid crap, and even then the way Clinton was cutting the budget meant the future was uncertain. He told me the last think I wanted to do is spend ten years learning to work on humvees and tanks then be cut because their was no budget to keep a 30+ nco when 1000's of 18 year olds would do my job cheaper. (Not a lot of call to work on humvees and tanks outside the military) Then Clinton shut down the airforce base and naval training station in the area, and I personally saw 1000's of service people left without jobs or a place to live.
12 years later I was given a fourty something tank mechanic to train in what I was doing, because the army 'pushed him out.' Pre 9-11 and post gulf war 1 was not a time for great military spending.
I really felt bad for the guy because I knew it would take 5 to 10 years before he could learn to make any money, and by then his body would be burnt out.
We are indeed a military family.
(January 19, 2015 at 2:54 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:Without a doubt none of this glory is mine. I can't even relay the facts at they happened correctly. I do not pretend that I have contributed to this country in a military capasity in any active way. That said, my family has. My family has been shaped and pruned by war in ways I will never fully understand. However i do see how it effects those who survive it. I do know how the survivors live and speak of their experiences. I also know of the Contempt frontline troops have for rear echelon guys pretending to be in harms way. It is for the love and respect I have for my family and what was given to this country that I carry this contempt as well. (Their sacrifices, memories and what they did and gave should not be diminished just because every one who puts on a uniform, wants to pretend they are a hero just because they did their time away from home.(January 18, 2015 at 2:12 am)Drich Wrote: Oh, yeah? my cousin is a colonel in the Rangers, and he's the one who told me that. He said when ever they went into an area with known hostiles durning the push on Baghdad, the chaplains would come and offer prayers, not one of the men in his company refused the chaplain when they were under fire.
You sure brag about a lot of your relatives and their service to the country. What happened to you? Clubfoot? Asthma? Failed the ASVAB?
I fought fire with plenty of religious and non-religious men, I can tell you that not one of us asked for a chaplain when we ran into the burning building.
Probably because even my brothers who believed in your god knew that he wouldn't be as useful as a charged handline, in those sorts of situations.
(January 18, 2015 at 10:23 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: His anecdote isn't even a real one; it's a blatant lie, and he's starting to seriously piss me the fuck off.
Mind you, in another thread, he's tried to bruit about his "uncle" who was "shot down twice" in Vietnam, and a "PoW" -- but said uncle cannot tell the difference between fuelies and firefighters on an active flightline.
All because little Drich here doesn't have the integrity to admit when he's wrong; he'd rather dig the hole deeper with transparent lies, obvious to anyone who has actually served.
Wrapping himself in lies, and in honor that is not his own -- shameless.
I know it's not my place as you pointed out. it is not my glory, but it is not yours either. "Stealing valor" is a term used to describe anyone (especially rear echelon troops) for posing as front line troops.. But again I digress as it is not my place to hold you to account. On that note I will appologize to both of you and not speak on stolen glory.
However I will invite both my uncle and cousin to write their views on the subject and post it or provide a link to their thoughts if they want to further be apart of any more discussions.
