(January 19, 2015 at 9:40 am)Drich Wrote:(January 18, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Whatever is most convenient to you at the time.
which is what as you understand it?
Same as above: your criteria change depending on whatever's most convenient for the argument you're making at the time. Sometimes it's just believing in Jesus and atonement, at others it's performing or abstaining from a set of actions, but simultaneously True Christianity is a faith based proposition, not a works based one. Sin apparently doesn't automatically disqualify you from the religion, but then somehow there's a threshold where it does, but only for criminals above and beyond the limit that you've set despite the fact that it doesn't appear in the bible at all. Oh, but let's not forget that slavery and murder and whatnot are okay so long as god does it, so for some reason the line for what makes one a True Christian or not doesn't apply for everyone, only who Drich decides it does...
Your criteria aren't something I can define because they aren't something you can define. It's not a position you hold, it's a defense mechanism you trot out when you need it, as even a short trip through positions you've espoused in the past shows. When you factor in the complete lack of evidence or justification you bring to the table to show that your beliefs are accurate, you'll have to excuse me if I don't take your idea of who is and isn't a true christian seriously.
Quote:So just because I call myself an Atheist doesn't make me one if I don't follow the rules of Atheism?
There are no rules of atheism. There is, however, a definition of atheism, which requires that one not believe in gods. We need definitions, because they're important for knowing what words mean; if we didn't have them, we wouldn't be talking. But a definition is not the same as a rule, it's a simple fact of what the concept describes; you can't be an atheist and believe in god for the same reason red can't be blue. It's a simple upholding of the law of non-contradiction; something can't be itself and not itself at the same time, so if you append the opposite of the definition of atheism to your own label of atheism, you are necessarily in contradiction. You also can't be a morbidly obese skinny person, that doesn't mean that being skinny is some kind of exclusive club with rules, it's just a component of how our language works.
Meanwhile, before you fart something out about the definition of "christian," I'd remind you again of the thousands of denominations, and your complete failure to provide for the accuracy of your specific one. I know obtuse, obfuscatory faux-idiocy is your stock in trade, but let's put it aside and actually have the conversation without you circling around the same obviously pointless ideas, again.
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