(January 20, 2015 at 6:42 pm)bob96 Wrote: Sorry, I assumed that was what you believed.
Yes, that's the problem. That's always the problem with so many theists: you assume, when we're right here to ask. It doesn't bode well for your talking points, if what you're addressing is what you assume your opponents believe, rather than what they actually do.
Quote:If you believe something came from "something else" (that we don't know about yet), then where did the "something else" come from?
I still don't know, but you believe in eternal things, so what's the problem?
Quote:If you believe the something just always existed, then science needs to eventually explain this - which would prove the existence God in my opinion.
I trust everyone else can see the hypocrisy in Bob's statement here, that things that aren't god but are eternal require scientific explanation, but gods that are eternal require no scientific observation because he's defined god that way, and none of it matters anyway because things that aren't god but are eternal would prove god to him, and otherwise he's just going to believe in god.

Quote:(Are there other options?)
These are the questions I was hoping to get an answer to.
Ok fine - "you don't know". I apologise.
Neither of us know. It continually baffles me that christians seem to have this desperate need to present an answer anyway, rather than just admitting that.
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