RE: Girl dies of stupid parents
January 21, 2015 at 4:04 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2015 at 4:53 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(January 21, 2015 at 1:53 pm)Drich Wrote:(January 21, 2015 at 12:52 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: You think the long-term survival rate is not longer now than it was 50 years ago, Doctor (I presume?)?Today's 5 years survival rate is over 90% she was given a survival rate of 75% that was the same as 50 years ago. Why?
Probably because she was an individual, not a statisic, so her doctors estimated her chance of survival based on her individual case. I apologize for not understanding what you were actually arguing. In my defense, it's preposterous enough to make more sense the way I read it.
(January 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm)Drich Wrote: Should have been you next question. what was she give the 50 year old survival rate?
Why should you ask the same question twice in a row? The answer I gave above still suffices.
(January 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm)Drich Wrote: If you read the web page I provided survival rates go down when reoccurance rates go up. It is a ratio that is used to access a patient's survivablity coupled with quality of life. Since the artical did not mention this, it means her long term survival/quality of life was very low.
No, it doesn't. Her doctors saying that would be a justifiable reason for reaching that conclusion. An article about average outcomes off the internet is not a justifiable reason to dismiss the findings of a specific case.
(January 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm)Drich Wrote: Again you people are idots for pinning everything on some crooked writters pen, and just assuming that this girl's parents hear the jesus dream and loose their minds..
That seems to be the case with you. You heard 'Jesus' and nothing else matters, including the girl's life.
(January 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm)Drich Wrote: The ironic thing is this is exactly what the crooked writter of that artical wanted for you people, and guess what not one of you looked any of this up you just saw dead kid with 75% survival rate and filled in the blanks with your own predjuice.
Give me you and any random person in the world, and I will always bet on you being the one who is more crooked, all other things being equal. You aren't qualified to make the evaluation you have made. The people who estimated the girl's chances are far more qualified to do so than you. And it should be obvious to anyone who stops to think for a moment that applying averages to a specific case in invalid. The average American has a net worth of about $45,000. That doesn't mean my net worth is $45,000. She's a human being, not a statistic. Her doctors knew the details of her case intimately. The authors of the article you're referencing would proabably be appalled at the way you're misusing it.
(January 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm)Drich Wrote: How is it that you all not see how blind you really are how you have been conditioned/indoctrinated to think when you see trigger words like this artical is full of?
No one indoctrinated me. I figured this stuff out for myself. Interesting how so many people reach similar conclusions when they don't get their opinions from ancient scriptures, isn't it? Your thinking has more in common with the average Arab in Syria than with ours.
(January 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm)Drich Wrote:(January 21, 2015 at 12:52 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Neither is dying.
We'll see when push comes to shove in your own life.
There you go, fantasizing about misery being inflicted on other people. It's not a healthy pattern, Drich.
(January 21, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Drich Wrote: It is always so easy to push your morality off on others, but when you are facing a life of misery for yourself the justifications then become more viable somehow.
I am an adult. The part of my brain associated with rational judgment is as developed as it's going to get. No one else but me is responsible for making my health decisions. When my time comes, if I have the opportunity, my decisions will take into account the costs and benefits. Millions of adults opt to go through chemo every year, you have absolutely no reason to insinuate that I would make the same decision for myself as was made for this child, except for you being such a disengenuous, malicious twit.
(January 21, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Drich Wrote: They nuke your bone marrow and that means you have no amune system, (among a bunch of other blood related problems) so you have to live in a cancer ward till you recover (months.) Months of extreme pain and sickness may be too much if your just putting it off till later where there is only more pain and sickness..
(January 21, 2015 at 12:52 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: So you think trading years for months is the smart bet, Doctor?
With cancer it is not quanity of life it is quality.
Which you're not qualified to assess, unlike the girl's doctors. You're filling in the gaps with your own prejudices.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.