Girl dies of stupid parents

[Mister Agenda]

We just went through an abortion argument a little while back and if I remember correctly all the atheist were in favor of allowing women and girls of any age to make a decision to have an abortion.

That sounds like us, though occasionally you'll run into an atheist who disagrees, as has happened on these forums more than once.

Granted one is not nearly as life threatening, but both are serious medical procedures. It's okay with you guys that a girl can make a medical decision and not even tell her parents she's having it, only because you support the immorality involved because she got pregnant.

That's a mischaracterization. I'll lay odds the vast majority have a problem with someone being forced to bear a child against their will (literally forced labor and a form of slavery IMHO), and our opinion is NOT based on 'Oh, she had underage sex and I approve of that, so let's not have any consequences since we WANT children having sex and getting pregnant. More abortions that way, and abortions are good!' The longer I'm on these forums, the harder it gets to believe that Christians are capable of discussing one of their hot-button issues in good faith. Can we order an Episcopelian from somewhere?

Leave the parents out, yep it's her body she should be able to make that decision on her own.

With input from qualified physicians familiar with her case.

But now that the shoe's on the other foot and a young girl wants to make her own medical decision you do not like it, you all jump on the bandwagon and condemn the parents.

For getting their little girl killed with quack remedies against the advice of her doctors.

You all don't see what's right in front of your faces, you will always go against the parents, they (the parents) have no right to make a decision about their baby girl having an abortion and they need to tell their baby girl she has no rights to make her own health decisions.

They need to follow the best medical advice available to them. Getting a second opinion from a qualified physician is rational. Turning to quacks is not. Parents need to follow medical advice or get out of the way. Doctors DO take into account quality of life following chemo in their recommendations.

That's as wishy washy as it gets, this is only selfishness at it's greatest height, let's say your ideas conform to a 60's thing, "down with the authority because by our standards they can't do it right."

It's consistent, it's only the atheists in your head that are wishy washy, and that says more about your head than us: the best medical treatment comes from the scientific method and accumulated medical knowledge. I would not advise a girl to get an abortion against her doctor's medically-based recommendation. I don't think doctors are infallible oracles, but their judgment can be relied upon to be significantly better in medical scenarios than a layperson's.

Now I'm not saying the parents did the right thing, can't trust a blog for correct information, that's naive as possible.

Hallelujah!

What I'm saying is that parents should always be involved in their child's medical decisions.

To the point of condemning their children to die if they disagree with the child's doctors?

You condemn these parents without all the facts, facts they have, you decide on supposed facts by a third party.

If they have facts unavailable to the girl's doctors, they should publish. The outcome suggests their information was NOT better than the information her doctors had.

You rant and rave about third party facts coming from the Bible, yet uphold third party facts from an internet blog, without knowing the person who gave the supposed facts.

This article is not the only source of information on this case. It's pretty famous. But no, we can't comment on more than the facts that we have. If you have additional facts on this case, please present them.

Can you get any more wishy washy, I mean really can you?

GC

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