(January 22, 2015 at 3:27 pm)Xeno Wrote:(January 22, 2015 at 2:22 pm)Godschild Wrote: Joking about something like that is risky, I know you do not believe, but what if, I've seen things that would make people think twice. Not trying to issue a threat, it wouldn't be responsible of me not to mention this, IMPO.
So joking about cancer is risky, but another theist in this thread has established that cancer is god's way of making people believe in the afterlife.
I'm only going to say this once, so pay attention please. I was not saying God would giver her cancer for anything, I'm saying God might punish someone for using God vainly. "Test not the Lord God."
I use to attend a church where some of the original members wanted to control the church... let's say as their own private club, so to speak. They wanted to get rid of the pastor and anyone who supported him. They were treating many people terribly, this went on for a long time. Finally the pastor decided to leave to keep the peace. All the people that supported the pastor were the ones who did most of the spiritual work in the church, almost all of us came after this pastor had been hired. All of us left and started a new church, now there were several in the old church that were good people and caused no trouble and supported the pastor, these individuals were there before this pastor was hired.
Not long after we left those who caused all the problems began one by one to get sick some of them died, some never recovered from their illnesses. Others died in different ways, but none of the good people left got seriously sick or died until after most of this group was punished. I personally had some tell me they had done the wrong thing and had been very bad people, others came and apologized to us at our new church. They tested God and realized He wasn't going to put up with people tearing apart His work, most of those people are dead now or seriously ill and they lost their church building a little while back because new people were not joining and they had to few people to be able to pay the bills.
Now you can criticize what I've said but, it's true, it became true to the ones left, they admitted they had done a great wrong to God and the previous members.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.