RE: What is wrong with this premise?
January 24, 2015 at 8:31 pm
(This post was last modified: January 24, 2015 at 8:32 pm by ManMachine.)
(January 18, 2015 at 3:43 am)Heywood Wrote: Premise: Everything that has come into existence has had a cause.
What is wrong with the above premise?
Because its not necessarily true.
The idea that the word and the Universe we live in is made of matter ('stuff') may seem self-evident, but the truth is much stranger. I don't want to go into it here because the reality of the Universe is actually much weirder than the notion of an overseeing god or gods.
In what we call the 'macro' Universe and for systems that adhere to Newtonian principles, this is broadly true. But you need to understand that Newtonian physics does not hold true for the Quantum Universe and effect can occur before a cause, and this has been experimentally proven. We have some great theory as to why this may be but no one really knows for sure.
So there you have it, your premise is too simple to be true and the truth (as far as we can understand it) is too complicated from the majority of people to grasp.
MM
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"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
