(January 26, 2015 at 1:54 pm)SteveII Wrote: Not knowing what was before T=0 in no way avoids the causal chain. Even before the current laws of nature existed, the concept of cause and effect still applies.
You haven't proved this.
Quote: These are not scientific concepts that can be voided with a "we don't know". These are metaphysical concepts that would transcend T=0.
You need evidence to support that this is true in all cases.
Until we know the mechanism that produced the universe everything we say is guess work.
Evidence and a working theory is what is required.
There are quite a few proposed by scientists.
"Magic man done it" doesn't even get a look in because it's not supported by evidence and lets face it, its a bit silly.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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