(January 26, 2015 at 2:35 pm)SteveII Wrote: Your buddies here seem to think that we can gather evidence and theorize what was before the big bang to avoid the God solution. It seems you believe we cannot know anything before T=0.Somehow, I suspect that you didn't arrive at "god exists" because you couldn't prove otherwise. Because that would require that you either accept all other deities that you cannot disprove, or that you set out to disprove them via a method that can just as readily be applied to the specific one you chose.
If we cannot know anything, how can you rule out God?
Sooo... which is it?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould