(January 27, 2015 at 11:07 pm)dyresand Wrote: Lets put it into perspective. God essentially fuck up when "creating" us.That's really the crux of it. It's enough of a problem for Christians that they have to place responsibility for it on someone else, even though it goes against the way we consider responsibility and liability in every other walk of life. In any other facet of our lives, you are responsible and liable for the work you do. When it comes to god, the work is responsible for itself and god is the 'good guy' for cleaning up someone's else's mess.
And the only explanation is to repeat the claim, because there is no explanation. It's the equivalent of a battered wife who explains that her bruises are her own fault because she provoked her husband to violence.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould