(January 28, 2015 at 11:11 am)SteveII Wrote:(January 28, 2015 at 11:00 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Ugh, this shit again. There's a thread in which this kind of idea is dissected in excruciating detail.
Additionally, can you have one single post that doesn't contain or end in a massive argument from ignorance? "It just seems more likely to me that all the miracles and supernatural, untestable, unverifiable, unrepeatable, untouchable events actually happened as described, rather than the people who wrote about these events were simply wrong."
Are you serious?
Yes. The gospels are evidence. The quality of the evidence is opinion. You cannot prove that these things didn't happen. I cannot prove that they did. You can't prove that miracles can't happen just like you can't prove there is no God. I can't prove that miracles happened and I can't prove there is a God. The only thing I can do is to defend that believing in God is not irrational.
No, just, no! They're a claim. They claim that x and y happen, they don't evidence it.
You're right, we can't prove that miracles don't/can't happen, but neither are we bothered because the whole burden of proof lies with the person making the claim in the first place. We dismiss your claims for this very reason; no evidence.
And that's it, in its simplest form. You want
Me to believe your claim? Satisfy my minimum requirement for evidence, which is something demonstrable, verifiable, and repeatable. You yourself probably use this benchmark everyday in your life, so why not apply it to your religious beliefs?