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August 10, 2010 at 4:02 am (This post was last modified: August 10, 2010 at 4:05 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(August 10, 2010 at 3:35 am)Edward the Theist Wrote:
(August 10, 2010 at 2:07 am)ABierman1986 Wrote: So you deny we hold meaning in our relationships? That's a mighty tall claim. The very fact we DO see meaning behind our love debunks any claim contrary. As to the views expressed here sounding like someone who has never lost anything they loved....it's hard to be polite to something so offensive, so I'll just say that the loss of a loved one is in NO WAY demeaned by atheism.
Well, you tell me: if atheism is true, what meaning can there be? And I don't deny your relationships have meaning. On the contrary, it's my philosophy that gives them meaning...even more than Christianity does.
(August 10, 2010 at 3:18 am)padraic Wrote: My pleasure. One leg or two?
As it turns out,I've been in love more than once,as well as married and divorced. The first time was at 20,when I was still a theist. The last time was from age 46 to now. (I'm 62)
The euphoria of being in love was the same,as theist or believer. The depth of attraction,liking,respect,attachment and commitment was the same,as theist or atheist.The anguish of loss was as visceral as theist or atheist.
The depth of your arrogance is really starting to piss me off.
What your saying has nothing at all to do with what I said. You see, I'm coming from the perspective that you're wrong about there being only a material world. So, you're the one devaluing your relationships; I'm the one giving them meaning. Unless you have something up your sleeve that will make a chemical reaction between two forms of matter "meaningful."
As for my arrogance pissing you off. You're arrogant, too. Go take a cold shower.
Really not reading this thread are you Edward??
Please stop being an ignorant childish imbecile. Yes we know you have taken the perspective of you are right and we are wrong.
Not a very good position for an adult argument or academic debate. *sigh*
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5