(January 28, 2015 at 5:06 pm)SteveII Wrote: You can claim the first century Christians were wrong all you want. That does not make it so. You have failed to prove that either 1) they really didn't believe or 2) that they beleived but there was a better explanation than a miracle happened.
We don't need to disprove your wild assertions. You need to prove them, and the desperation with which you're trying to foist that burden of proof on other people is a good indication that you just can't do that.
Quote:It seems like your only logical basis for thinking they were wrong is that Jesus could not have been raised from the dead. However, if people witness it and then act upon that information...Because you all love WLC:
"All that the scientist conceivably has the right to say is that such an event is naturally impossible. But with that conclusion the defender of miracles may readily agree. We must not confuse the realms of logical and natural possibility. Is the occurrence of a miracle logically impossible? No, for such an event involves no logical contradiction. Is the occurrence naturally impossible? Yes, for it cannot be produced by natural causes; indeed, this is a tautology, since to lie outside the productive capacity of natural causes is to be naturally impossible."
Sorry, but "it's okay because it's magic" is not a cogent argument, and neither is logical possibility the same as physical possibility. You're going to have to do better than that.
Incidentally, you do understand that WLC is a terrible source to go to for arguments here, because he's a presuppositionalist, right? He claims he has this "self authenticating witness" of the holy spirit that will lead him to believe in god even if he were given conclusive evidence that god doesn't exist. When you post a WLC link, you aren't posting evidence or an argument, you're posting the meandering ramblings of a man intent on bending over backwards to reach his preferred conclusion no matter what. It's effectively useless.
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