A simple challenge for atheists

[SteveII]

Good question. Thank you for actual dialog.

That is not the only reason to think mormonism and Islam is wrong. One has to weight the teachings as well.

It is the cumulative case for Christianity that makes it different. We have the OT and information that provides and then the NT which is radically different but fits the facts and completes the picture. We give weight to the OT, but it is not the same weight given to the NT. The OT was an incomplete revelation of God.

Then why dismiss my point about the first muslims and mormons, in response to yours about the first christians? If your actual objection is that you don't think the muslim and mormon religions are true based on a comprehensive overview of the facts that's fine, but it does rather work against your original point: if your answer to me bringing up those other religions is "yes, but those religions aren't true," then you're accepting the fact that religions with early members reporting things can be either true or false, not true by necessity, and therefore your point about christianity being more reasonable because of the views of the first christians is moot.

I think the difference is what are the early members attesting to. One side they attesting to teachings from someone who claimed to be God and then witness a death and resurrection that then is explained to them by the person they believe to be God. With Mormons and Muslims, early members would be attesting to a man claiming to have a message from God.