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The crucifixion of jesus and why it doesn't matter
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RE: The crucifixion of jesus and why it doesn't matter
(January 29, 2015 at 7:07 am)YGninja Wrote: You need to read again what i said, i was very specific in my wording: "makes him a person who we can accept to judge us.", not "allows him to experience human life so that he is able to judge us".
You also said "Suffering himself, as man, knowing mans suffering, knowing mans tribulations" which is different from simple commiseration. But okay, the point is that it makes him a person who we can accept to judge us, except that the god of the Bible doesn't generally give a damn whether or not we accept him as a judge. He did not manifest as a human before wiping out nearly the entire planet with a flood. He did not manifest as a human before humiliating the Egyptians and then drowning their army by dropping a sea on top of them. He did not manifest as a human before delivering a severe ego-whipping to Job for the crime of expecting an explanation for his ill-treatment.

The easiest way to convince humanity that he was a worthy judge would be through his judgments. If he felt that these were so lacking that he had to pretend to be a man for a short period of time, then he should have just stepped up his game. Putting on a human costume and getting tortured to death might elicit sympathy, but not necessarily acceptance.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: The crucifixion of jesus and why it doesn't matter - by Tonus - January 29, 2015 at 8:46 am

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