(January 9, 2015 at 7:33 pm)bob96 Wrote: Imagine an alternate universe which contains a single hydrogen atom. (Lets not include dark matter or other forces in the discussion for the purpose of simplicity.) You could replace the atom with a proton, a neutron, a sub-atomic particle, or a string. The point is, it's real. It can be measured.
Now where did this hydrogen atom come from?
Was it just always there?
Did it spontaneously appear, ie. magically?
Did someone create it?
How did it come into being?
Considering that your avatar label lists you as "Christian" as far as belief, take this same argument you just made here, and ask yourself if you would buy it if a Muslim used it to convince you Allah exists.
Typical tactic I have seen from every major religion. When they cannot successfully attack and debunk science, they try to co opt it. It does not work when Muslims do it, or Jews, and even have run into Buddhists and Hindus who pull this crap.
Science is label independent, religion does not own a patent on it and it does not prop up ANY god claim.
Our universe is 14 billion years old. Our planet is 4 billion years old. None of our current superstitious claims or invisible sky hero claims were around at the beginning of evolution, much less 200,000 years ago.
In the future our species will go extinct, and eventually all life on this planet. Our planet's core will run out of energy, and the sun also has a lifespan. After we are gone, all our human invented religions and god claims will die with us, and our universe will continue on with no record or care for us.
Humans are not the center of this planet, nor the universe. I am sorry if that reality scares you, it should not, but bronze age comic books are not science textbooks and will never constitute scientific knowledge. They were all written by scientifically ignorant people who did not know any better. It made sense back then, it makes you look silly now that we know better.
