(January 30, 2015 at 2:36 pm)SteveII Wrote: Just ask for references next time. A familiar set is called the Romans Road. You can read them all here: http://christianity.about.com/od/convers...nsroad.htm
Specifically Romans 10:9-10, and 13. There are many more.
If you have references then you should give them, not just expect that your assertions will automatically be believed.
Interestingly, that other theist has his own set of references for why he's right and you're wrong, all present in the bible too; he didn't just pluck the idea fully formed from his imagination. Again, the question becomes, who is right? We can toss around bible verses all day long, but considering the bible's notorious potential for interpretation and theodicy, that doesn't exactly get us anywhere. If the tens of thousands of denominations of christianity tell us one thing clearly, it's that the bible can be spun to mean anything you need it to mean. The real prize is actual authorial intent, which is something not a one of you can demonstrate since none of us know who the authors of the gospels were, and even if we did the only way their intent would be significant is if it conformed to an additional divine intent, which has also gone undemonstrated throughout the centuries.
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