RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
February 2, 2015 at 10:58 am
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2015 at 11:54 am by paulpablo.)
Quote:Is it not true that Soviet Union and china had seen most powerful dictators in the entire human history but still communism failed? Why (according to you) an average military dictator (Prophet Mohammad) got spectacular success whereas most powerful dictators in the modern atheist regimes failed drastically? Read Quran with an open mind and you will have the answers to these questions.
You forgot to say "Peace be upon him" After saying prophet Muhammad.
You're swapping the word atheist with communist in that last part.
Muhammads empire at the time of his death hadn't spread that far at the time of his death, it wasn't even all of Arabia. It's only the cult that spread after his death, and fractured sects of Islam which spread afterwards.
Quote:Let us take this idea into a different perspective. When a scientist discover a new scientific fact, initially that knowledge remain strictly with him. Then (if willing) that scientist (one-man) passes that knowledge to his close colleagues. Those colleagues then spread that knowledge in other organizations and the spread of that knowledge continuous until it becomes common in schools and universities for everyone else. Is not it the way in which science developed? Do you think any scientist has the capacity to reveal new scientific fact simultaneously in all languages of the world?
No, the spread of scientific theory doesn't work like that.
You just described how heresay, rumors and superstition are spread.
In science if one man discovers something he tells other people about it then they test it for themselves/ look over the evidence and so on to see how accurate the claims are, they don't just start spreading the message instantly.
No I do not think any scientist has the capability to instantly spread the knowledge of anything simultaneously in all languages of the world, but scientists don't claim to have the capability of god, or claim to be spreading gods message divinely that they received from an angel.
What I'm actually trying to illustrate to you is this.
Science is man made, scientists don't claim to get their info from god, you can observe that science is man made, it's message spreads like a man made message.
Religions claim to be god made, no reliable observations can be done to say they are god made, they usually rely on ancient heresay and superstitions, and the message still spreads like a man made message, usually in one language and it gets corrupted over time and god doesn't bother to correct anyone about the mistakes they made he just leaves one book in one language with multiple interpretations.
Quote:Can a super computer running a super AI software has the power of free will. Can that super computer know what are feelings and emotions? Functioning of human physical body is not subject to the principles of that physical body. Natural human body like Nature itself is devoid of Free Will. All human actions are subject to the human free will. In other words human will is the cause of all human actions.
If you constrain all human actions to the functioning of brain then by definition of Natural Selection people should live emotionless mechanical life. In fact, this behaviour we can observe in many low life forms, which are no more than living machines performing fixed mechanical tasks.
The human brain is more complex than a supercomputer running super AI software, this results in emotions.
Have you not noticed that the more complex the brain in the creature the less mechanical and more emotional it is? Maybe with some exceptions such as people with autism.
Quote:“It is He Who gives Life and Death; and when He decides upon an affair, He says to it, "Be", and it is.”
Al Mu'min (40)
-Verse 68-
These verses are clear enough that God is not bound by anything. “Be” only shows His Will and it is not a constraint in any sense. In fact, the command “Be!” shows the zenith of God’s Free Will.
Have you ever ponder from where God got all elements and that dust to create Adam and everything in the physical universe? Do you know what Ex-Nihilo is? Creation Ex-Nihilo is the power of God, which is hidden, in this small word “Be!”
Gods in creation stories have to have constraints otherwise the fairy tale wouldn't be long enough and it would be a bad story.
The story would just be "God made everything instantly".
Instead it has to involve dust, periods of time, some sort of magic word god says, thrones over water, stages.
The god in islam seems to have constrained himself to having to say the words be to create things, and to not create everything instantly but do it in periods of time, and also to create things out of dust or water, rather than just saying the words be and for them to instantly appear.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.
