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Slavery and eating animals
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RE: Slavery and eating animals
February 2, 2015 at 2:06 pm (This post was last modified: February 2, 2015 at 2:06 pm by Faith No More.)
(February 2, 2015 at 1:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -if so, then the whole "issue" can be sidestep by sedation or captive bolt (which is actually what we do - not really for the benefit of the animal, mind you, more to preserve the quality of the product..lol). Problem solved, enjoy your steak.

It's not what the animal can feel at the time of death that matters but what the animal can experience as a conscious entity. I mean, how much of what we morally value in our consciousness - which is the depth and level of our sensory experience - can an animal actually experience itself?

It's certainly not anywhere near what we humans experience, so just how much weight am I to give their experiences when trying to determining whether it is moral to eat them?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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Slavery and eating animals - by Grasshopper - February 2, 2015 at 3:11 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 3:25 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Invisible Sky Fairy - February 2, 2015 at 3:34 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 3:36 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Grasshopper - February 2, 2015 at 4:00 am
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 3:39 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 2, 2015 at 3:42 am
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 2, 2015 at 5:52 am
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 5:50 am
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 7:42 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Losty - February 2, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Grasshopper - February 3, 2015 at 2:41 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Mudhammam - February 3, 2015 at 2:51 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Bad Wolf - February 2, 2015 at 7:43 am
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 8:26 am
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Faith No More - February 2, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 1:10 pm
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Esquilax - February 2, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 3, 2015 at 2:33 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Faith No More - February 2, 2015 at 2:06 pm
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 2:10 pm
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Faith No More - February 2, 2015 at 2:13 pm
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Mudhammam - February 3, 2015 at 1:19 am
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 3, 2015 at 3:00 am
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2015 at 3:47 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 3, 2015 at 3:49 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2015 at 3:53 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 3, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Mudhammam - February 3, 2015 at 4:11 am
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 3, 2015 at 1:19 pm
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RE: Slavery and eating animals - by JesusHChrist - February 3, 2015 at 1:24 pm
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