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Slavery and eating animals
RE: Slavery and eating animals
Is this thread necro? Anyway, I want to say something on both sides of the argument.

1) I think the assumption that raising animals for slaughter, killing them, and eating them, reeks of Biblical logic. We are "special," and the needs or wants of other organism are therefore below ours. I don't see any non-arbitrary reason why why should undervalue the suffering or loss of life of animals, especially when it's not necessary in Western countries for a good diet.

2) The assumption that not eating meat will necessarily reduce suffering or loss of life may not hold true. Farming involves loss of habitat, clear-cutting involves direct deaths, and the eating of a cow which is grass fed may actually reduce the NUMBER of lives loss (gophers and birds getting mulched in large farm equipment, etc.)
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Slavery and eating animals - by Grasshopper - February 2, 2015 at 3:11 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 3:25 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Invisible Sky Fairy - February 2, 2015 at 3:34 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 3:36 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Grasshopper - February 2, 2015 at 4:00 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 4:19 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 2, 2015 at 3:38 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 3:39 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 2, 2015 at 3:42 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Ben Davis - February 2, 2015 at 9:58 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 2, 2015 at 5:52 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Losty - February 2, 2015 at 5:14 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Vosur - February 2, 2015 at 5:22 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 5:50 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 2, 2015 at 7:03 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 2, 2015 at 7:38 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 7:42 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Losty - February 2, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Grasshopper - February 3, 2015 at 2:41 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Mudhammam - February 3, 2015 at 2:51 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Bad Wolf - February 2, 2015 at 7:43 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by watchamadoodle - February 2, 2015 at 8:23 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 8:26 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Chas - February 2, 2015 at 9:21 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 9:22 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Chas - February 2, 2015 at 9:37 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 9:42 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 8:33 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 2, 2015 at 8:44 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 8:47 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 2, 2015 at 8:50 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 8:51 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by watchamadoodle - February 2, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by ManMachine - February 2, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Tonus - February 2, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Darkstar - February 2, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by FatAndFaithless - February 2, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 10:02 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Gawdzilla - February 2, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by abaris - February 2, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Esquilax - February 2, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Lek - February 2, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Faith No More - February 2, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 2, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 2, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 2, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 2, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Esquilax - February 2, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 3, 2015 at 2:33 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Faith No More - February 2, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 2:10 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Faith No More - February 2, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 2, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Darkstar - February 2, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Valkyrie - February 2, 2015 at 9:34 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Surgenator - February 2, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Mudhammam - February 3, 2015 at 1:19 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Minimalist - February 3, 2015 at 1:34 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 3, 2015 at 3:00 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by JesusHChrist - February 3, 2015 at 3:02 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2015 at 3:47 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 3, 2015 at 3:49 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2015 at 3:53 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 3, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Mudhammam - February 3, 2015 at 4:11 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2015 at 4:16 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 3, 2015 at 4:18 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Thumpalumpacus - February 3, 2015 at 4:49 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by AFTT47 - February 3, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Tonus - February 3, 2015 at 8:47 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Minimalist - February 3, 2015 at 11:34 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Thumpalumpacus - February 3, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 3, 2015 at 1:03 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Tonus - February 3, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by JesusHChrist - February 3, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Thumpalumpacus - February 3, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Losty - February 3, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Valkyrie - February 3, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Jackalope - February 3, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Tonus - February 3, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Valkyrie - February 3, 2015 at 2:02 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 3, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Natachan - February 3, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2015 at 1:22 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by JesusHChrist - February 3, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Norman Humann - February 3, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Thumpalumpacus - February 3, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by rexbeccarox - February 3, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Surgenator - February 4, 2015 at 1:57 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by JesusHChrist - February 5, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 5, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Tonus - February 3, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 5, 2015 at 3:36 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by AFTT47 - February 5, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Strider - February 5, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Norman Humann - February 5, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 5, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Norman Humann - February 5, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 5, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Norman Humann - February 5, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 5, 2015 at 12:30 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Alex K - February 5, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Thumpalumpacus - February 5, 2015 at 2:10 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by AFTT47 - February 5, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Strider - February 5, 2015 at 8:28 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 5, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by bennyboy - February 5, 2015 at 9:24 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Regina - February 5, 2015 at 9:29 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by Dystopia - February 5, 2015 at 10:22 pm
RE: Slavery and eating animals - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2015 at 11:47 am

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