(February 13, 2015 at 2:53 pm)Nestor Wrote:Are you arguing my recall of the account or the truth of the account?(February 13, 2015 at 1:45 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Two points. In the initial creation account (where 'God created all things' comes from) there were no diseases.Please tell me you're joking. I refuse to believe people are really this stupid.
(February 13, 2015 at 2:53 pm)Nestor Wrote:So that I can understand you, are you now changing your argument from 'cancer and disease are evil' to 'the effects of cancer and disease are evil'?(February 13, 2015 at 1:45 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Secondly you'll have to prove that diseases and cancer are evil to make your argument. Are not chemical reactions amoral?It's not chemical reactions themselves anybody's debating, dipshit. It's the horrible physical and psychological turmoil inflicted on otherwise innocent mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, children, and babies who were going about their lives, minding their own business, and now will likely die a slow and painful death while your God supposedly sits on his lazy ass bathing in beggars' tears.
(February 13, 2015 at 3:05 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:Sure it does, and for the previously mentioned reason.(February 13, 2015 at 1:45 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Two points. In the initial creation account (where 'God created all things' comes from) there were no diseases. He did create them in a different sense later on as a consequence of sin, not of His initial creation which He deemed good. There is a difference between the initial 'creation of all things' and the world we observe today. Namely sin.It does not matter whether god created diseases and cancer in the beginning or only later on. Either way, it is god's creation, if he created everything. So he cannot escape responsibility by creating it later on; it is still his handiwork.
(February 13, 2015 at 3:05 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: If the disease were not caused by an intelligent being, then it would just be amoral.
According to your worldview it is.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?