(February 14, 2015 at 4:18 am)Harris Wrote:Science cannot proof the non-existence of something. Based on what one knows of science, logic can rule out the non-existent.(February 12, 2015 at 12:36 am)IATIA Wrote: It is god that is illogical. Only a deluded brainwashed theist can believe in an illogical, impossible, magical sky-daddy.Can you prove non-existence of God by means of science? The best what you have is the evolution however; evolution and natural selection are limited to animated objects only.
(February 14, 2015 at 4:18 am)Harris Wrote:Those stupid arguments have been debunked a myriad of times.(February 12, 2015 at 12:36 am)IATIA Wrote: No theist, as of yet, has even come up with a fathomable description of a god, let alone any evidence.Study Fine Tuning, Intelligent Design, and Cosmological Argument. Especially, focus on Fine Tuning.
(February 14, 2015 at 4:18 am)Harris Wrote:Again, science cannot prove the non-existence of something, but based on what one knows of science, logic can rule it out.(February 12, 2015 at 12:36 am)IATIA Wrote: And the reason is, as they think on the description, they realize how illogical, ridiculous and impossible it is for a god to exist.Prove by using science that idea of God is illogical. I want to see what argument you have to disprove existence of God.
Infinite regression prohibits the beginning of anything, so there must be no time and everything is. No before, no after, no causality. If everything is, then there was no creation and there is no need for a god.
(February 14, 2015 at 4:18 am)Harris Wrote:And yet you have avoided any description.(February 12, 2015 at 12:36 am)IATIA Wrote: It is much easier to come up with vague descriptive phrases and qualify them with "It is the mystery of god".You seem to be a deluded person.
(February 14, 2015 at 4:18 am)Harris Wrote:I asked for a description, not a 'proof'. One cannot prove the existence of something until there is a description of what is to be proven.(February 12, 2015 at 12:36 am)IATIA Wrote: So, what is your description of god? I realize it is difficult to describe something that does not exist, but go ahead, give it a shot.I had given very logical proofs on the existence of God. Because you do not believe in God, therefore, you are closing your eyes over any given fact and this way you are unable to see the truth. On the other side you believe that science is capable to give you all answers then consider the statement:
(February 14, 2015 at 4:18 am)Harris Wrote: Can Science prove that rape is evil? All 'evil' is based on social morals. It is not an absolute. It changes from decade to decade, generation to generation, culture to culture.
Can Science prove that your spouse loves you? Yes.
Can Science explain the fine-tuning of the physical constants? There is no such thing.
Can Science explain why we require sleep? Yes.
Is not gravity still a greater mystery than evolution? No.
My answers in bold.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
