Brilliant new apologetic fact

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That is the Christian god's idea of justice. People who had nothing to do with a crime are condemned because of the crime. I did not get my chance in the garden of eden. Did you?

I am not punished for the sin of Adam and Eve, I am punished for the sins I commit.

So, you are saying that there is no god who created everything? If so, then I agree, there is no one to blame for the mess that is the world. But, if it had been created by a being, then that being is to blame for the mess that we experience every day. So, make your choice: Was the world created by a god? If so, then that god is to blame for the mess it created. If not, then, well, if the world is the result of mere random chance, then there is no one to blame. But you cannot have it both ways. Either the world was created by a god or it wasn't. If it was, then the blame belongs to that creator. If it wasn't, then there is no one to blame. Of course, with this second option, there is no creator god. Is that your position, or are you just trying to weasel out of the consequences of the claims you make?

God is responsible for creating men capable of making choices, not for the choices they make.

To use a metaphor from the Bible, the potter does not properly blame the clay if the pot is poorly made. If a potter makes a bad pot, it is the fault of the potter, not the pot. If god fucks up, it is god's fault, not the thing that god made.

The metaphor you're quoting doesn't say anything about the pot being made poorly. It speaks of two pots being made from the same lump of clay, one for special use and one for ordinary. It doesn't say either are poorly made, just that they have different functions.

If I was created by an omnipotent, omniscient being, then that being chose to make me exactly what I am. Consequently, that being bears the entire responsibility for whatever I am. And that means, whatever I do as a consequence of whatever I am, is the responsibility of the being that made me what I am, if I was made by such a being.

So, was I created by such a being, or not?

Am I to then understand that you are not responsible for you actions?

If God created you then God bears the entire responsibility for who you are and what you do.

And if you were created and governed by time and natural random chance processes, then that bears the entire responsibility for who you are and what you do.

Either way, you aren't responsible for what you do. It's either God's or nature's responsibility.