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You CAN game Christian morality
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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 18, 2015 at 7:21 pm
(February 17, 2015 at 5:54 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Premise not accepted. You haven't appropriately correlated 'gaming the system' with 'immoral behavior' with 'poor moral system.'

What are you talking about? If a moral system allows one to commit immoral acts, and contains within its premises a method by which those immoral acts become forgotten within the metric of the system, if there is a way to do immoral acts with great regularity within a moral system and still come out the other end considered moral, then that moral system has failed at its stated purpose of separating the moral people from the immoral people.

This is like if I had a car that I claimed was a poor car because it has no wheels, and you disagreed because I hadn't properly correlated "not being able to drive," with "poor car." The thing literally cannot do the one thing it was set up to accomplish; if that's not a poor version of whatever the thing is, then I'd very much like to know what you consider poor quality in anything.

Quote: To further explain. If gaming the system isn't an immoral [or heinous] act then there's nothing wrong with doing it and it therefore wouldn't be a part of the moral system at all. If gaming the system is immoral, then it would be a part of the moral system and it would be wrong to do.

If gaming the system allows one to freely commit immoral acts without impact, if the whole purpose of gaming the system is to do precisely that and it could be put to no other use, then it is itself an immoral act. If it's an immoral act and hence wrong to do, then repentance is wrong to do, as repentance literally is gaming the system, and the mechanisms of the system fail completely.
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You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 16, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Chad32 - February 16, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 16, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 16, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 16, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 16, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Chad32 - February 16, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 16, 2015 at 1:17 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Norman Humann - February 16, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 16, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Chad32 - February 16, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 17, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by IATIA - February 17, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 18, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by IATIA - February 18, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 18, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by FatAndFaithless - February 18, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 18, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 19, 2015 at 2:57 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Lek - February 18, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Homeless Nutter - February 19, 2015 at 2:37 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Esquilax - February 19, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Esquilax - February 18, 2015 at 7:21 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 19, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Esquilax - February 19, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 24, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Grandizer - February 24, 2015 at 11:38 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 24, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Grandizer - February 24, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Thumpalumpacus - February 24, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 24, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Thumpalumpacus - February 24, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - March 4, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Thumpalumpacus - March 4, 2015 at 7:04 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Grandizer - March 7, 2015 at 1:01 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - March 7, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Grandizer - March 7, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - March 9, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by dyresand - March 9, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - March 9, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Grandizer - March 9, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Grandizer - March 9, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Grandizer - February 24, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 25, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Anomalocaris - February 17, 2015 at 5:59 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 17, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by polar bear - February 19, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 2:57 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Esquilax - February 19, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by FatAndFaithless - February 19, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by TheRealJoeFish - February 19, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 20, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 20, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 20, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 20, 2015 at 4:47 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 21, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by IATIA - February 21, 2015 at 8:13 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Grandizer - February 21, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 23, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - February 23, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 24, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 20, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 20, 2015 at 9:29 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 4:36 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Ravenshire - March 4, 2015 at 6:38 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - March 6, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by vorlon13 - February 21, 2015 at 8:13 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 23, 2015 at 4:46 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 25, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by RobbyPants - February 25, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Thumpalumpacus - February 25, 2015 at 3:55 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - February 25, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - March 5, 2015 at 10:07 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by dyresand - March 9, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by robvalue - March 10, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by The Grand Nudger - March 10, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by orangebox21 - March 12, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: You CAN game Christian morality - by Grandizer - March 12, 2015 at 3:39 pm

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