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A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
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A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
Geez, that really is idiotic. When you feel the need to resort to a tortured argument like this, that should be a big clue that you're wrong.

Not to mention that by not revealing himself, he's being deceptive.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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RE: A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
Apologetic diarrhea.
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RE: A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
(July 20, 2015 at 11:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Apologetic diarrhea.

And the only real remedy Min, is to use the bible to wipe up!
Problem solved once and for all.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
(July 20, 2015 at 11:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Apologetic diarrhea.

Anusius blesses you.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
(July 21, 2015 at 12:04 am)vorlon13 Wrote:
(July 20, 2015 at 11:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Apologetic diarrhea.

Anusius blesses you.

While I got you Vorlon.
There's a new song on the radio called " how deep is your love"
Everytime I hear it, you spring to mind!
Bastard!

At least I hope I've wrecked it for everyone now..hehe
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
(July 21, 2015 at 12:21 am)ignoramus Wrote:
(July 21, 2015 at 12:04 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Anusius blesses you.

While I got you Vorlon.
There's a new song on the radio called " how deep is your love"
Everytime I hear it, you spring to mind!
Bastard!

At least I hope I've wrecked it for everyone now..hehe

I only just heard the new one.  But it works for the BeeGees and they deserve it:

If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
If you're providing genuine evidence (to the best of your ability) then this is informing someone. The worst I think I could say about it is that it could be inappropriate to do so sometimes, but to say that you're forcing them to act a certain way is nonsense. You may well be aware that they will most likely take a certain course of action, but it's still their choice.

Have you influenced their choice? Yeah. Have you made it for them? No. Have you provided false information? Hopefully no. Are you providing your own pressure for them to do what you want them to do? No.

It seems some Christians can't understand that God might reveal himself to an atheist and the atheist might believe he exists but not want to worship/love him. To them, knowing he exists and worshipping him have never been separated from the moment their indoctrination started.
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RE: A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
Rob, what's that got to do with how deep Vorlon's lovehole is! Get with the program man! hehe
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: A Contradiction of Coercions Can We Have a Christian Explaination?
Quote: contend that there isn't enough evidence to prove god, only enough to make belief in god rational because if god were to provide proof, that would be coercive and god wants to be loved freely and without coercion.

I don't understand that at all. If god supplied us with evidence of its existence, I don't see how that would constrain our free will to love this deity. Practically, all of the coercive forces that I see in the world, are the religious wackos, trying force us to love and accept this god on no evidence, yet many claim god doesn't want to coerce a relationship with us, but wants us to choose to love him. Someone isn't receiving god's messages very clearly. The consistency of the claims of what god wants are ruining the credibility of the religitards by the minute, with contradictory statements like these.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' -Isaac Asimov-
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