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RE: Obama's address at Countering Violent Extremism summit
February 19, 2015 at 10:52 am
(February 19, 2015 at 5:57 am)mralstoner Wrote:
Oh crap. 34 minutes of talking all around the problem. Barely a mention of Islam. No mention of the root cause of Islamic violence i.e. the example of the prophet Mohammed.
Here goes rationality to die. Word after meaningless word, a stream of clinically-dead bullshit. All because he can't or won't open the fucking Koran and debate its contents. A fucking zombie president, more interested in protecting the image of Islam (for personal identity reasons), than "honest and clear" talk.
Take your brain and incinerate it, that's Obama's legacy. Prepare for a torrent of verbal diarrhea.
... Leading up to this summit, there’s been a fair amount of debate in the press and among pundits about the words we use to describe and frame this challenge. So I want to be very clear about how I see it.
Al Qaeda and ISIL and groups like it are desperate for legitimacy. They try to portray themselves as religious leaders -- holy warriors in defense of Islam. That’s why ISIL presumes to declare itself the “Islamic State.” And they propagate the notion that America -- and the West, generally -- is at war with Islam. That’s how they recruit. That’s how they try to radicalize young people. We must never accept the premise that they put forward, because it is a lie. Nor should we grant these terrorists the religious legitimacy that they seek. They are not religious leaders -- they’re terrorists. (Applause.) And we are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam. (Applause.) ...
So that’s the first challenge -- we've got to discredit these ideologies. We have to tackle them head on. And we can't shy away from these discussions. And too often, folks are, understandably, sensitive about addressing some of these root issues, but we have to talk about them, honestly and clearly. (Applause.) And the reason I believe we have to do so is because I'm so confident that when the truth is out we'll be successful...
And terrorist groups are all too happy to step into a void...
How can Obama be so "confident" of getting the "truth" out when Egypt's leader Sisi said the other day that Islam has a major problem and needs reforming?
Presumably, Obama is still working from his class notes while studying Islam in Indonesia, when he was 6 to 10 years old.
The thing is that Obama thinks he needs to find a way of illegitimising Baghdadi's claim to the Caliphate. This is his chosen methodology. Plus it has the benefit of maintaining good terms with the more moderate sects of Islam whom, if he can't count as allies, he can at least maintain neutrality with. The ISIS version of the Prophetic Methodology contains the instruction that all muslims who don't follow their interpretation of Islam are apostates who must be killed or taken in to slavery; they sow the seeds of opposition from those on their very borders. In fact, more atrocities are committed against muslims by ISIS, on a daily basis, than have ever been committed against western nations. It's this aspect of the politics which Obama's trying to exploit.
An alternative approach was published in the Atlantic and I find it hard to refute.
