(February 18, 2015 at 7:21 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(February 17, 2015 at 5:54 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Premise not accepted. You haven't appropriately correlated 'gaming the system' with 'immoral behavior' with 'poor moral system.'
What are you talking about? If a moral system allows one to commit immoral acts, and contains within its premises a method by which those immoral acts become forgotten within the metric of the system, if there is a way to do immoral acts with great regularity within a moral system and still come out the other end considered moral, then that moral system has failed at its stated purpose of separating the moral people from the immoral people.
Within the framework of a moral system that considers 'gaming the system' a moral act, people gaming the system would be moral. A premise you disagree with, but it would not 'fail to separate the moral from the immoral people.' It would simply separate them in a manner you disagree with.
Outside of the framework of a moral system that considers 'gaming the system' a moral act one can argue that gaming the system is immoral.
There hasn't been proper correlation between proving that: gaming the system is an immoral act, Christian morality is a system that views gaming the system as a moral act, and [therefore] Christianity is a poor moral system.
(February 18, 2015 at 7:21 pm)Esquilax Wrote:I don't think you understand what repentance means. Repentance is turning from your sins. A person turning from their sins cannot be gaming the system [continuing to sin with the knowledge you have been forgiven].Quote: To further explain. If gaming the system isn't an immoral [or heinous] act then there's nothing wrong with doing it and it therefore wouldn't be a part of the moral system at all. If gaming the system is immoral, then it would be a part of the moral system and it would be wrong to do.
If gaming the system allows one to freely commit immoral acts without impact, if the whole purpose of gaming the system is to do precisely that and it could be put to no other use, then it is itself an immoral act. If it's an immoral act and hence wrong to do, then repentance is wrong to do, as repentance literally is gaming the system, and the mechanisms of the system fail completely.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?