Religiosity, Spirituality and the Moral

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In my mind there isn't sufficient justification, but there probably is in their minds.

Rationality isn't a matter of opinion.

Parents are concerned about keeping their wealth in the family and having someone to care for them in old age. Culturally, daughters belong to their husband's family. And I figure they justified the one child law as being for the good of the many by keeping the population down.

... And you can't cover for one irrational concept with a second one, even if it's a cultural tradition.

As far as secular morality goes, it's pretty much up to society to determine what is morally right, as in my China example. If the majority of a society determine that it's okay to kill your newborn child, it can pass for good morality.

No, it can't. It certainly is up to a given society to determine its morals, but that doesn't mean they're binding, correct, or even morally efficient. You can drum up majority support for heinous moral ideals, that doesn't mean they're the best that society could be doing. Like most theists, you're mistaking "self imposed," for "entirely relativistic," and that's just not the case: regardless of what any one society decides, they still inhabit the same reality as everyone else, and we can still make valid determinations about which moral ideas are better or worse.

Christian morality is just good. Please don't give me some gory example of something from the old testament and tell me they were following christian morality. Tell me what Jesus has taught me to be morally good and bad.

I love that you asked that I don't give you an example outside of what you've cherry picked, that's hilarious.

But just sticking to Jesus, do you think it's morally good to endorse slavery, or to intimidate people with whips? It's actually really trivial to show that even your narrow idea of what counts as christian morality is not good.

The OT does stand. The question always goes back to whether christians are under the OT law. The old testament people were under God's wrath, and after Christ, we are under God's grace. A day or two ago I presented 3 or 4 verses from scripture to demonstrate that christians are not under the old law. God isn't reformed. He was always morally righteous. I never made any kind of statement saying that God was once evil and then he changed

So all the stuff god did in the Old Testament was moral? You just somehow think it's okay because it doesn't apply to you? How does that work? How does "you guys don't have to do the evil shit I spent centuries making other people do!" make the evil shit okay?