(February 19, 2015 at 11:58 pm)Surgenator Wrote:(February 19, 2015 at 8:19 pm)ether-ore Wrote: I understand that what you say is true, but you're still not seeing the definition of subjective. In the following comment you tell me about what it means to offend the law (I'll get to that in a minute). The same thing applies. Ideas don't create themselves, people created them. That something is considered by you as an observable fact isn't what makes it subjective. You observe something and from that, you formulate a conclusion, which if true, becomes a standard. But the formulation of the idea comes from a person which is what makes it subjective. The thing that reinforces its subjectivity is that other people have different ideas.I'm failing to see how describing something that objectively happens becomes subjective. For it to be subjective, it needs to be relating to the way a person experiences things in his or her own mind. That experience can be different to someone else's mind. Cause and effect does not behave like this.
Quote:Fair enough, "offends those who abide the law".
I concede the point, but I will modify you response just a bit. It offends those who abide the law and not necessarily those who created it.
I've also noted that your objective moral law doesn't work like other objective laws. For example, I cannot break the 2nd law of thermodynamics no matter how hard I try. However, I can break any of the objective moral laws as much as I want. What makes the objective moral laws behave differently? This question might need its own thread.
Surgenator, I've two problems going on at the moment. I'm on my way to dialysis right now and also, I'm in the middle of a move from Buena Vista to Richmond. However, I'll get back to you this afternoon.