(February 20, 2015 at 7:01 pm)Heywood Wrote: I take the position that in any universe like ours, finite and emergent complex, there will exist finite intellect. I further take the position that in any reality which is eternal and emergent complex, there will exist eternal intellect.Show that such a reality is more than an idea.
Quote:I find the notion that intellect can exist outside of reality to be nonsensical just as the notion of an inverse square law outside of 3 dimensional space is also nonsensical. If there is 3 dimensional space, there will be an inverse square law. If there is an eternal and emergent complex reality, there will be eternal intellect.That's a lot of assertions, and not a lot of proof or evidence.
Quote:I don't believe in God because I need God. I believe in God because God is something that ought to exist. Most people who believe in aliens do for the same reason. Aliens are something that ought to exist in this universe so they believe in them. Do you believe extra terrestrial aliens exist? Do you believe extra terrestrial aliens exist because you need them to exist or because you think they ought to exist?This is a non sequitur. We might believe that aliens exist, because the circumstances in which humans evolved are known or believed to exist elsewhere in the universe. It is exactly because we do NOT believe that Earth is favored by God, or that life was created by God, that it is plausible that aliens exist.
We do not know that the circumstances, whatever they might be, in which a God would seem probably exist. There is no parallel here at all. So far, the only place we know God exists is in the human imagination, as an idea.
