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Problem of good and evil for an atheist
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
Quote:No, it is not evil. Whilst I would always hesitate in killing somebody, doing it for the greater good is not evil. It may be unpleasant, but that's just moral squeamishness. Equally, killing Hitler as a baby would be unpleasant, but ultimately a good act. That's my view, anyway. Clearly you and I see morality differently. Like you, I do think that moral judgements are meaningful, and that morality is more than just society's values, but I am a utilitarian. The end justifies the means. Nothing is wrong in and of itself, only in terms of its consequences.

I think I was wrong. In my opinion, its evil but in your opinion its not. I guess there is no problem of good and evil, for an atheist, just different ethics?

Quote:Are you sure? Did you ever read Todd Strasser's "The Wave", or at least watch one of the two film adaptations of the book? The American version's below, courtesy of Youtube. The German Remake is not available with english subs, though. They're all based on an experiment spurred on by a remark one student made almost exactly like the one quoted above. Needless to say, it did not end up that well.

I got suspended a couple of times for arguing with teachers, so I would doubt I would be in that class.
Although, I doubt that would be possible, from learning better to become a cult. Anyways, I see your point.

Quote:What knowledge do you posses to make that judgement OO? I don't have to believe it, it logically follows: You don't have the information to judge.

Indeed. We dont know what the conversation with God and them was like so we shouldnt judge and say, 'Look! Look! God told them to kill them!'
The Word of God has been written with a cultral perspective slant. We shouldnt jump to any conclusions...
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.

You dont hate God, you hate the church game.

"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine

Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
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Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by solja247 - August 13, 2010 at 2:58 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Tiberius - August 13, 2010 at 6:23 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Ace Otana - August 13, 2010 at 9:47 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Ace Otana - August 13, 2010 at 12:57 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rhage - August 13, 2010 at 8:41 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by AnunZi - August 13, 2010 at 9:35 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by chasm - August 13, 2010 at 3:17 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rev. Rye - August 13, 2010 at 5:02 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rhage - August 13, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 13, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Minimalist - August 14, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by lrh9 - August 14, 2010 at 12:31 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by solja247 - August 15, 2010 at 8:49 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rev. Rye - August 15, 2010 at 11:54 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 19, 2010 at 3:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2010 at 8:03 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Zen Badger - August 21, 2010 at 11:15 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 19, 2010 at 7:12 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 6:45 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 5:23 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 9:34 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 11:39 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 5:42 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 9:08 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 19, 2010 at 9:14 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by solja247 - August 20, 2010 at 9:20 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 11:19 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 1:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Bull Poopie - August 21, 2010 at 11:21 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 21, 2010 at 8:45 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 21, 2010 at 10:19 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Darwinian - August 22, 2010 at 7:55 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 8:02 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 8:46 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 9:56 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 5:42 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Tiberius - August 22, 2010 at 10:12 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 10:27 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 11:17 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 3:18 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 6:49 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 7:14 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 7:19 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 7:42 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 23, 2010 at 3:56 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 23, 2010 at 8:30 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 25, 2010 at 6:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 26, 2010 at 11:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 28, 2010 at 7:37 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 29, 2010 at 7:35 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 30, 2010 at 8:02 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Skipper - September 8, 2010 at 2:14 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by ib.me.ub - October 16, 2010 at 10:05 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2010 at 11:46 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by ib.me.ub - October 16, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by ib.me.ub - October 16, 2010 at 11:15 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by tackattack - October 17, 2010 at 11:38 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rayaan - October 18, 2010 at 2:42 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by LastPoet - October 18, 2010 at 7:51 am

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