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The argument of "chance"
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 23, 2015 at 6:25 pm (This post was last modified: February 23, 2015 at 6:33 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(February 21, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Wiggy Wrote:
robvalue Wrote: In other words, they copied out the back of the book and still got it wrong.

Thats a big statement because all of those who wrote the new testament were killed for their testimony. No one dies for a fabricated lie

Five million Germans died defending the Third Reich. Do you think Hitler's assertions about Jews, herrenvolk and untermenschen were true?

By your logic, you'd have to do so.
(February 22, 2015 at 2:49 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: Anyone gonna answer this? Wiggy?

(February 21, 2015 at 9:13 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Not so simple; now you have to answer the question: where did that creator come from?

You really should change your title to "Feet to the Fire holder". I love the way you are dogged in your questions.
(February 22, 2015 at 12:37 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(February 22, 2015 at 8:57 am)Tonus Wrote: Yep. Special exemption for the prime mover. God was always there, which means it literally took him forever to create the universe.

Yeah, he floated around in a timeless eternity until suddenly, he just decides that it's boring, so poof, reality. But here's the problem: if god is eternal then there would have been an eternity of time for him to begin creating the universe, therefore he never could have reached the time that it happened! /theist Rolleyes

You gotta love it when the Kalam argument refutes itself.
(February 23, 2015 at 8:52 am)robvalue Wrote: It's another one of the arguments that looks at things backwards. It's treating it as if humans just got flung onto a random planet and it just happened to have everything just right for us. Of course what actually happened is that we evolved to fit our environment. If the conditions were different, we would be different, or possibly not here at all.

That's right. The puddle is eternally surprised that the pothole fits him exactly.

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The argument of "chance" - by xr34p3rx - February 21, 2015 at 12:55 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Pizza - February 21, 2015 at 2:08 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by xr34p3rx - February 21, 2015 at 2:35 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Norman Humann - February 21, 2015 at 4:39 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Tonus - February 21, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 21, 2015 at 7:05 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by dyresand - February 23, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Lucanus - February 21, 2015 at 2:42 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 2:43 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Norman Humann - February 21, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 1:50 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Homeless Nutter - February 21, 2015 at 6:50 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Lucanus - February 21, 2015 at 3:02 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 3:30 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Alex K - February 21, 2015 at 4:20 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 4:42 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Alex K - February 21, 2015 at 5:17 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 5:52 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Dystopia - February 21, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Pizza - February 21, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 3:06 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Tonus - February 21, 2015 at 3:12 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Wiggy - February 21, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by veoli - February 23, 2015 at 9:15 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 23, 2015 at 9:38 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by abaris - February 23, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2015 at 10:35 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by IATIA - February 21, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Wiggy - February 21, 2015 at 9:12 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by rexbeccarox - February 21, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by rexbeccarox - February 22, 2015 at 2:49 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 22, 2015 at 2:52 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 23, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by IATIA - February 21, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by xr34p3rx - February 22, 2015 at 12:23 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 22, 2015 at 12:40 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by bennyboy - February 22, 2015 at 2:16 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by JesusHChrist - February 23, 2015 at 12:16 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Norman Humann - February 23, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Neo-Scholastic - February 22, 2015 at 8:29 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 22, 2015 at 8:44 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by bennyboy - February 22, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 9:21 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Wiggy - February 21, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 21, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Wiggy - February 23, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Alex K - February 23, 2015 at 8:23 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 23, 2015 at 11:24 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Pizza - February 23, 2015 at 4:18 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Simon Moon - February 23, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Tonus - February 21, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Grandizer - February 21, 2015 at 11:45 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Brakeman - February 22, 2015 at 12:11 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by rexbeccarox - February 23, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by IATIA - February 21, 2015 at 11:51 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by TheRealJoeFish - February 22, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 22, 2015 at 1:17 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 22, 2015 at 2:51 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Tonus - February 22, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 22, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Ravenshire - February 23, 2015 at 11:08 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by dyresand - February 24, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 23, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by ManMachine - February 23, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by robvalue - February 23, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 23, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Thumpalumpacus - February 23, 2015 at 5:26 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Valkyrie - February 23, 2015 at 9:20 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by dyresand - February 23, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by JesusHChrist - February 23, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Esquilax - February 23, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Dystopia - February 23, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: The argument of "chance" - by Thumpalumpacus - February 24, 2015 at 3:21 am
RE: The argument of "chance" - by The Reality Salesman - February 24, 2015 at 12:40 pm

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