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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 9:05 pm
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Appeal to popularity, and it's not even a majority. You may want to check out that logical fallacy on my blog http://robvalue.wix.com/atheism#!appeal-...rity/c1z25:
It's not hard to make prophesies "fulfilled" when you can just read them all and write that your character did exactly what they predicted. It's like sneaking a look at the answers at the back of the book. The prophesies were available to see when the jesus character was being created.
Yes, science changes its models in order to account for new evidence. That's why it continues to hold the best models. Ignoring new evidence is denying reality. Religion has been denying reality since it's very beginning.
That website you quoted is absolute utter garbage I'm afraid. I've never talked to anyone who understands evolution and still disagrees with it. Apologists have no idea what it is. It's got so much evidence that you would have to spend your whole life learning new it's to get through it all.
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 9:05 pm
1. There was no chance - we are not here
2. There was a chance (however googolplex small) - we are here
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 9:12 pm
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In the beginning there was nothing.
0+0=0
Therefore there must be an eternal creator outside of time and space. Simple really.
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 9:13 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 9:12 pm)Wiggy Wrote: In the beginning there was nothing.
0+0=0
Therefore there must be a creator outside of time and space. Simple really.
Not so simple; now you have to answer the question: where did that creator come from?
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 9:18 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 9:12 pm)Wiggy Wrote: In the beginning there was nothing.
0+0=0
Therefore there must be a creator outside of time and space. Simple really. If there was a creator, then there was not nothing.
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 9:21 pm
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Regarding the prophesies again, they were trying so hard to make jesus fulfil them that:
1) He fulfilled things that weren't even making predictions
2) They had him doing things that didn't even make sense, or were mistranslations of prophesies, because they misinterpreted what they thought were prophesies
In other words, they copied out the back of the book and still got it wrong.
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 9:37 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 9:01 pm)Wiggy Wrote: On the other hand evilutions are always changing their stories about fossils. Thats why its crap. I would suggest subscibing to creation.com. it completely and utterly destroys evolution scientifically.
Well, now you've done stepped into my wheelhouse, so I should speak up:
First of all, evolution is not "the other hand" to belief in the christian god; those two things are not antonyms. You were going on about how 30% of the world is christian, as though that is a measure of truth, so if you take that seriously then I have to point out that the majority of those accept evolution as true.
Secondly, "changing their stories,"... yes. That is what you do, when you come across new information. It's called "learning." Would you rather the scientists discover new information and not change the story to fit? Would you rather they just be wrong, so long as they have the same story forever? Why would you want that? Wouldn't you be using that as an argument against evolution if you lived in that world?
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 9:41 pm
robvalue Wrote: In other words, they copied out the back of the book and still got it wrong.
Thats a big statement because all of those who wrote the new testament were killed for their testimony. No one dies for a fabricated lie
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 9:45 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Wiggy Wrote: Thats a big statement because all of those who wrote the new testament were killed for their testimony. No one dies for a fabricated lie
So, every islamic terrorist ever died for a real Allah? Come on, man. 
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 10:21 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 9:45 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (February 21, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Wiggy Wrote: Thats a big statement because all of those who wrote the new testament were killed for their testimony. No one dies for a fabricated lie
So, every islamic terrorist ever died for a real Allah? Come on, man. Yes!!!!
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