(February 24, 2015 at 1:19 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Except humans cannot take full responsibility for being flawed. Christian doctrine asserts that man was made in God's image, by God. It follows that the responsibility is his as well.God is responsible for creating a man capable of choice, not of the choices man makes.
Your analogy fails on a couple of different levels. For it to hold, the speeder must be compelled to speed, and unable to do anything else, because of his inherent makeup.
No, Christianity teaches men to hate themselves. Pathetic.
(February 24, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Irrational Wrote: The answer is right there in the quote.I'm asking you to support your assertion.
(February 24, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Irrational Wrote: Even if it may be a bit too excessive, it's nowhere close to punishing someone way more severely and for eternity for "crimes" not worse than speeding through a school zone.You're missing the point. A person who accepts responsibility for his/her actions is not necessarily a self-loathing one. Christianity teaches penance and personal responsibility, not self-loathing.
But not sure why you think law made by man is supposed to be perfect that you have to appeal to it so much in order to defend your less perfect concept of divine justice.
A person complaining about the penalty for a crime would not be penitent, accepting of personal responsibility, nor self-loathing.
(February 24, 2015 at 4:32 pm)RobbyPants Wrote:We've all sinned Robby. In the past and in the future. The blood of Christ is sufficient payment for them all.(February 23, 2015 at 4:44 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Once saved, sin has no effect on a person going to heaven. It can have an effect on the reward a person receives once there.
So, the system can't be gamed because you can sin with impunity once saved? I mean, yeah, you don't get as good a reward in heaven, but it's still heaven.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?