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Problem of good and evil for an atheist
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
(August 22, 2010 at 9:56 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Are you a perfect being Ent? If not then yes, I think I could safely say that your morality is inferior to that of God. Apparently you disagree. You, not knowing, judge God to be imperfect.

I judge this fictitious god to be no different than a war criminal. As I said, I see no distinction between the slaughter of Midianites, or the many other -ites slaughtered by Yahweh's command or directly by Yahweh himself. The only distinction is your definition, Yahweh = "perfect" and that makes all the difference in the world to believers like you. It all hinges on an airtight syllogism that has no contact with reality. Yahweh can do everything Pol Pot does, except whatever he does is good by virtue of the fact that he is Yahweh.

But, in the end, I don't judge Yahweh, since he, along with the thousands of other gods, doesn't exist. But his followers have and still do and still do and justify the most monstrous things that would ordinarily be condemned as criminal or worse. Do I judge? Damn straight I do. I am not "perfect" (whatever that means). But one thing I don't do is go around slitting people's throats, nor do I go around nodding approval of it, regardless of who it is giving the orders.

Quote:I would never kill (justly take life). My religious guidance supersedes that of the OT.
I would never murder (unjustly take life) because I know that to be morally wrong.

This is an evasion of my original question, but I'm not surprised. It would mean being accepting the possibility of ACTING on your insular syllogism, something that not everyone has the fanatic urge to follow through. To go that far might make one sound... insane.
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by solja247 - August 13, 2010 at 2:58 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Tiberius - August 13, 2010 at 6:23 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Ace Otana - August 13, 2010 at 9:47 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Ace Otana - August 13, 2010 at 12:57 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rhage - August 13, 2010 at 8:41 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by AnunZi - August 13, 2010 at 9:35 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by chasm - August 13, 2010 at 3:17 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rev. Rye - August 13, 2010 at 5:02 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rhage - August 13, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 13, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Minimalist - August 14, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by lrh9 - August 14, 2010 at 12:31 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by solja247 - August 15, 2010 at 8:49 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rev. Rye - August 15, 2010 at 11:54 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 19, 2010 at 3:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Ace Otana - August 19, 2010 at 8:03 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Zen Badger - August 21, 2010 at 11:15 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 19, 2010 at 7:12 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 6:45 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 5:23 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 9:34 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 11:39 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 5:42 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 9:08 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 19, 2010 at 9:14 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by solja247 - August 20, 2010 at 9:20 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 11:19 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 1:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Bull Poopie - August 21, 2010 at 11:21 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 21, 2010 at 8:45 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 21, 2010 at 10:19 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 6:30 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Darwinian - August 22, 2010 at 7:55 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 8:02 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 8:46 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 9:56 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 5:42 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Tiberius - August 22, 2010 at 10:12 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 10:27 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 11:17 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 3:18 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 6:49 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 7:14 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 7:19 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2010 at 7:42 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 23, 2010 at 3:56 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 23, 2010 at 8:30 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by fr0d0 - August 25, 2010 at 6:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 26, 2010 at 11:09 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 28, 2010 at 7:37 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by padraic - August 29, 2010 at 7:35 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Entropist - August 30, 2010 at 8:02 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Skipper - September 8, 2010 at 2:14 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by ib.me.ub - October 16, 2010 at 10:05 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2010 at 11:46 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by ib.me.ub - October 16, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by ib.me.ub - October 16, 2010 at 11:15 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by tackattack - October 17, 2010 at 11:38 pm
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by Rayaan - October 18, 2010 at 2:42 am
RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist - by LastPoet - October 18, 2010 at 7:51 am

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