What were Jesus and early Christians like?

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Up setting the jews in that he was on thin ice with Rome. 'Upset jews' meant revolt, and revolt meant a heavy handed response from ceasar directed at him. I wasn't looking to do a history lesson. 'Up set jews' was more than explaination enough for anyone who knows of piloets situation.

Pilate's situation wasn't enviable. But before you presume to dispense history lessons, you might want to look into Pilate's tenure as we know it from other sources (Min has provided some of that) rather than the white wash the Gospels give it. His repeated provocations and heavy-handedness is what led to his recall by Rome. Pilate was unusually venal and brutal, even by the standards of provincial representatives of Rome.

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It seems likely that 'the historical Jesus' was a former follower of JtB, which had to be played down when he became a 'messiah' in his own right.

Right, now he's Jesus cousin who has been sent to prepare the way for Jesus! Lol! Assuming Jesus was actually a follower, who knows if JtB even knew who "his cousin" was.

Well, of course he know "his cousin"! He leapt for joy in the womb, after all.

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Your deception might fool the foolish ones here, but not the Christians. Matthew, Mark, Luke all say Jesus went into the desert after His baptism. Johns Gospel never mentions the 40 days in the desert. John's gospel gives no time line for the baptism, it does say John gave a testimony of Jesus and how he knew who Jesus was, but as I said there is no time line on when he baptized Jesus. Since the 40 days were not mentioned in John's gospel and the baptism has no true time line, speculation is all you have and nothing more.

GC

I see, foolish me. I always thought "immediately," meant immediately, and "the next day" meant the next day.

That's because you lack GC's 'special' relationship to langu-- . . . I mean the Holy Spirit.

No, on second thought, I actually do mean language.