RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 2, 2015 at 6:39 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2015 at 6:54 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(March 2, 2015 at 2:33 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Faith is synonymous with trust, the words are interchangeable.
Not so. Religious faith is not synonymous with trust, although other denotations of faith are synonymous with "trust". The religious denotation is not one of them. Here, here's the OED. Let's read this slowly:
Quote:Definition of faith in English:
noun
1 Complete trust or confidence in someone or something:
this restores one’s faith in politicians
2 Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
2.1 A system of religious belief:
the Christian faith
2.2 A strongly held belief or theory:
the faith that life will expand until it fills the universe
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/def...lish/faith
[Formatting added to ease reading -- PT]
Now, when you look at the synonyms for the highlighted religious denotation, you get:
Quote:religion, church, sect, denomination, (religious) persuasion, (religious) belief, ideology, creed, teaching, doctrine
You'll hopefully notice that none of those are the word "trust".
In other words you're equivocating two different denotation, because ... well, because you're clearly not very educated in matters English.
(March 2, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 2, 2015 at 6:19 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: That's right. Religious faith requires one to abdicate his or her intellectual curiosity and ability to ask questions.
Reason and faith cannot coexist. One must either compartmentalize thought processes, as some scientists do, or completely abandon reason as an epistemology, which is clearly what Buggy here has done ... until he gets sick and goes to the doctor rather than engages in prayer.
Where does the Bible tell you not to utilize doctors?
Where did I say it did?
You really are awful at this English stuff. Do learn to read.
Because you clearly missed my point, you denigrate the application of reason to life, until you are faced with the deleterious effects of such an approach, at which point you avail yourself of the science you detest and distrust in most other cases. Until that point, you actively shield your faith from the practice of reason.
That is probably because you understand that your faith cannot withstand searching questions. Remember, it was you who said you don't need to explain the Bible, but just believe. If that's really the case, why are you here at this forum, seeking to explain the monument to faulty thinking that is your bible?
(March 2, 2015 at 6:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: You'd first have to have a point in order for someone to miss it.
Just because you're too dense to see it doesn't mean it isn't there. It just means you're a fucking clod. See my reply immediately above, and remember to think before you post next time.