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Do we expect too much from human reason?
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RE: Do we expect too much from human reason?
(March 3, 2015 at 3:35 pm)Faith No More Wrote: The problem with this argument is that atheism is not about trying to understand what underlies all reality.

If you'll read my posts again, you'll see I'm not trying to make that point.

My point is that atheism assumes the rules of human reason are binding on all of reality, the realm addressed by god claims. My point is that this assumption has not been proven.

Quote: It is simply a response to a claim made by other humans, which is certainly within the realm of human reason's capability.

Quote:When someone completely fails to demonstrate a claim I am completely justified in rejecting that claim, which is all atheism is.

Try this. Imagine that I reject a god claim because my ouija board says that claim is wrong. It would be entirely reasonable for you to dismiss my rejection because my chosen authority, the ouija board, has not been proven qualified to conduct this analysis.

You would reasonably require me to prove the qualifications of my ouija board.

If I used a holy book to come to a conclusion, you would reasonably require me to prove it's qualifications.

But when it comes to human reason, your chosen authority, you give it a total free pass. You don't question it's ability to do the job being asked of it in this particular case. You don't offer proof of it's qualifications. You probably don't even realize proof is required, because you likely take reason's qualifications for this particular job as an obvious given.

But those qualifications are not an obvious given. They're not proven either. Nobody even attempts to prove those qualifications, they just assume them.

Reason requires us to challenge all chosen authorities with equal vigor. The very same challenge that is presented to holy books must be presented to human reason too, or any other chosen authority.

Challenging the other fellow's chosen authority while leaving ours unexamined is not reason, it's dogmatic ideology. There's no point in challenging theism with yet another faith based dogmatic ideology. No point.
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Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Whateverist - January 26, 2015 at 8:46 am
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Ben Davis - January 26, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by KevinM1 - January 26, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Mudhammam - January 26, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Whateverist - January 26, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by robvalue - January 26, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by robvalue - January 26, 2015 at 2:33 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by bennyboy - January 26, 2015 at 7:53 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Mudhammam - January 27, 2015 at 3:09 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Crossless1 - January 27, 2015 at 3:37 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Angrboda - January 26, 2015 at 9:11 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by jackson - January 27, 2015 at 6:48 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by bennyboy - January 27, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by jackson - January 27, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by bennyboy - January 28, 2015 at 12:54 am
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by dyresand - January 28, 2015 at 1:16 am
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 3, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 3, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Thoughtage - March 3, 2015 at 7:04 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Cato - March 3, 2015 at 6:49 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Cato - March 3, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Cato - March 3, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by Cato - March 3, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 3, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 4, 2015 at 8:36 am
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 4, 2015 at 9:00 am
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 4, 2015 at 7:23 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 5, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 5, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 5, 2015 at 2:43 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 5, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: Do we expect too much from human reason? - by comet - March 6, 2015 at 9:48 am

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