RE: Do we expect too much from human reason?
March 3, 2015 at 8:12 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2015 at 8:29 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(March 3, 2015 at 6:46 pm)Thoughtage Wrote: What is the fundamental nature of reality? Does reality arise from a form of intelligence, or is reality a result of the random collision of mechanical forces? Welcome to the theist vs. atheist debate.
So, you don't know what the fundamental nature of reality is, but you're sure that reason is incompetent to get at it, eh?
And why is reason unable to address that question?
Be exact, and if you introduce any vague terms, be sure to define them.
And while you're at it, shitcan the condescension. I've been decent to you thus far, and I expect the same treatment in return. I don't prefer to have ugly conversations, but I will make change in the coin tendered.
(March 3, 2015 at 6:46 pm)Thoughtage Wrote: Ok, great. So please show us your posts where you question whether the rules of human reason are binding on all of reality, the realm addressed by god claims. Thanks.
I've already acknowledged, in this very thread, that reason has limits. Simply because I don't agree with you about its ability to answer god-claims doesn't mean I haven't considered your views here; it's just that I find them unsatisfactory. Perhaps this conversation would go smoother if you actually read what is posted.
(March 3, 2015 at 6:46 pm)Thoughtage Wrote: I'm addressing that part of the atheist community that came to their view through a reasoning process.
And doing so in an entirely unconvincing manner. If this is the best you have to offer, I'd suggest revising and resubmitting. Your point has had several holes knocked in it, holes which you refuse to acknowledge until your feet are held to the fire, and quite frankly, your argumentation is execrable, containing straw men, unsupported claims, and a penchant to ignore countervailing points.
(March 3, 2015 at 7:04 pm)Thoughtage Wrote: You don't question it's ability to do the job being asked of it in this particular case. You don't offer proof of it's qualifications.
This is patently false.