(March 3, 2015 at 11:39 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: And I answered you. The Bible is it's own interpreter.
Only if you don't read the bible with your human eyes, and contain the information in your human brain. If you're doing either of those things, then you are interpreting the bible when you read it.
Quote:When you rely on man to interpret what he thinks the Bible says, you tend to end up with a new denomination.
You're a man, and you're telling me what you think the bible says. And you, like all those other men, seem incapable of doing anything but assuming that your interpretation is perfectly correct. I get that you believe the things that you believe, but just conducting yourself like your beliefs are automatically correct doesn't tell us how you know those beliefs are correct, and that's all you're doing. "The bible is its own interpreter" contains within it the hidden premise that what you are representing the bible to be is the correct interpretation; whether you shop out responsibility to the bible itself or not, you still have a set of beliefs, and those beliefs are not shared by other christians. From an outside perspective, without just presupposing that you're absolutely right on every point, how do I differentiate between the right perspective, and the wrong ones?
Just pointing back to the bible doesn't resolve this question, as all the other competing interpretations are doing exactly the same thing. You're answering a "how do you know?" question with a "what you claim to know," answer. The contents of your beliefs are not the reason you believe them.
Quote:Psalm 90:4
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
So how are we supposed to know when the bible is talking about some undetermined length of time when it says "day," versus when it's talking about an actual 24-hour period? You're very happy to tell us which you think it is, but you completely freeze up whenever you're asked how you know that's the correct usage. Sometimes you refer back to faith, which is effectively just "because I said so," with an amateurish attempt to tack on additional divine authority.
Quote:I just gave examples of you guys doing the exact same thing to me, yet I have no problems giving the Yes or no answer.
You're the most evasive one here.
Quote:You guys can ask Y/N questions, but can't answer them yourselves.
Pretty hypocritical, no?
No, it's not hypocritical to refuse to play into your attempts to build strawmen. The difference is that when you give an answer that expands upon the point beyond a simple yes or no, we go from there. When we give you an answer that does the same, you just pretend no answer was given until you get the simple yes or no that you want in order to continue on your predetermined script, regardless of what our actual position might be.
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