(March 4, 2015 at 4:48 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: If that is your standard of moral responsibility, then every wrong that your child does you are morally responsible for. After all you could have prevented it.
Every engineer, assembly line worker, and CEO of an automotive company is guilty of murder, after all they could prevent every automobile accident resulting in a fatality.
No one lives as if this is true.
The obvious difference, which you've obviously missed, is that none of the humans in your analogy possess the omnipotence your god is alleged to have.
I'll invite you to rethink this post, and perhaps come back with something a little more in line with the relative attributes accorded the parties being discussed. So long as you insist on treating men as gods, you must abandon your god's ability to judge men. And so long as you insist on equating your infallible god with fallible men, you must desist urging others to worship such an unworthy deity.
(March 4, 2015 at 4:48 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: The scripture is true, your understanding of it is not.
Well, what's holding your tongue? Speak for Jesus, already.
No, you're quiet because you know that there is no way you can explicate that verse without acknowledging the point that your religion inculcates self-loathing.
Am I wrong? You tell me. But -- get this -- you actually have to explain why. I think I understand that verse perfectly well. You must hate everything about life in order to gain heaven. "Everything" includes yourself.