RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
March 6, 2015 at 2:00 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2015 at 2:28 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(March 6, 2015 at 4:32 am)Nestor Wrote: Obviously a citizen (in this case, a person belonging to a tribe of Yaho) who happened to be poor and offer his services or one of his family members as a payment of debt (I sincerely hope this isn't a practice you're attempting to justify) is not quite the same thing as owning captured foreigners and selling/trading/using them as property, which Yaho's people also did. When you cite verses prohibiting murder that appear to contradict those involving cases where a slave was beaten and then died later, you're ignoring the fact that one law was given as a contract between Hebrews and their allies, another given for enemies and foreign slaves.I cited the 10 commandments, you're familiar with "thou shalt not kill" right? To murder someone was a capital offense. Show me where it states in the Bible where if you beat a "servant" and he died later, it was fine.
Also I stated that this practice still exist in Haiti. I realize it's easy for you to pass judgement on other cultures while you live a life of privilege, but let me ask you a yes or no question.
In Haiti 78% of people are below the poverty line and 54% live in extreme poverty. My Haitian Mother-in-law has live in servants, they do house work in exchange for food and shelter, they do this by choice because otherwise they would starve (no welfare in Haiti). the question is, do you consider this to be immoral? yes or no?
(March 6, 2015 at 4:32 am)Nestor Wrote: Eh, no, that's not quite how it worked, bud.So you found a dummy on the internet? Using that logic, I could say the holocaust was faked.
http://tifwe.org/resources/five-myths-about-jubilee/
Poor and/or foreign slaves weren't freed and debts weren't forgiven (that would be so nice though, wouldn't it?)
http://www.therealistreport.com/2014/03/...faked.html
see?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/jubilee
Quote:ju·bi·lee
(jo͞o′bə-lē′, jo͞o′bə-lē′)
n.
1.a. A specially celebrated anniversary, especially a 50th anniversary.
b. The celebration of such an anniversary.
2. A season or occasion of joyful celebration.
3. Jubilation; rejoicing.
4. often Jubilee Bible In the Hebrew Scriptures, a year of rest to be observed by the Israelites every 50th year, during which slaves were to be set free, alienated property restored to the former owners, and the lands left untilled.
The Bible clearly states.
Quote:Leviticus 25:10
And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.
Quote:Leviticus 25This is Hebrew LAW, not suggestions. To transgress the law willfully was death. I already showed where holding a person against their will was death.
25 If thy brother be waxen poor, and hath sold away some of his possession, and if any of his kin come to redeem it, then shall he redeem that which his brother sold.
26 And if the man have none to redeem it, and himself be able to redeem it;
27 Then let him count the years of the sale thereof, and restore the overplus unto the man to whom he sold it; that he may return unto his possession.
28 But if he be not able to restore it to him, then that which is sold shall remain in the hand of him that hath bought it until the year of jubile: and in the jubile it shall go out, and he shall return unto his possession.
Now you show me where it states in the Bible that everyone was to go free on Jubilee except foreigners.
You guys love to pick and choose what you accept in the Bible, either accept it all or accept none of it? If you're suggesting the Law never existed, then Indentured servitude didn't exist either.