RE: What were Jesus and early Christians like?
March 9, 2015 at 6:20 pm
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2015 at 6:43 pm by watchamadoodle.)
(March 9, 2015 at 5:50 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: ...Just to be sure I understand, you are suggesting that those mentions in the letters of Paul are later additions by proto-orthodox, and Paul was more of a gnostic? Isn't there something in the NT that suggests that nobody knows where Jesus came from?
Paul was originally the poster prophet for Marcionite Christianity. Ehrman's book on Lost Christianities mentions that Marcion's scriptures used Paul's letters. Marcionite Christianity, I probably don't need to explain to you but for the benefit of others, preached that the OT god Yahweh was a lesser god to Jesus. He wanted to ditch the OT completely and all things Jewish to create a whole new religion, centered around the superior god Jesus who offered us salvation. Jesus would never have been a baby, so ditch the whole Mary and Joseph drama along with any linage to King David. Jesus came down to earth as all gods do, appearing fully formed as an adult.
Yet when Paul does mention Jesus, he writes of the "seed of David", came to us "by woman", that "the head of Christ is (Yahweh)", and that he sits "at the right hand of (Yahweh)". etc.
So I'm confused. Did Marcion not read the letters of Paul? Or did he promote the letters of Paul hoping no one else would read them? Or do we have the letters of Paul as they existed at that time?
EDIT: I'm thinking of John 7:27-28. I guess I remembered the details wrong.
Quote: 27 But we know where this man is from; when the Messiah comes, no one will know where he is from.”https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV
28 Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts, cried out, “Yes, you know me, and you know where I am from. I am not here on my own authority, but he who sent me is true. You do not know him,