RE: If there is a creator, so what?
March 11, 2015 at 8:40 am
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2015 at 8:42 am by robvalue.)
Oh sure, yeah. You make good points. But I'm talking about making changes in my behaviour to actually allow for this creator. Even if I believed there was one, I have no way to communicate with it, or any reason to think it cares what I am doing. If I also believed it was actually doing anything to interact, that would be cause for concern. But just the existence of a creator doesn't lead to this without further justification and evidence.
Arguments like the Kalam at best take you to a deistic God, and I'm saying even if I allow these arguments, it doesn't get to the point of anything I can actually interact with. So just trying to convince me there is "something up there" is really pointless, unless you can demonstrate you have some way of actually knowing something about it. Of course christians would try and just switch in their god and hope I don't notice. That needs its own justification, for which I see none.
Arguments like the Kalam at best take you to a deistic God, and I'm saying even if I allow these arguments, it doesn't get to the point of anything I can actually interact with. So just trying to convince me there is "something up there" is really pointless, unless you can demonstrate you have some way of actually knowing something about it. Of course christians would try and just switch in their god and hope I don't notice. That needs its own justification, for which I see none.
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