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Argument for atheism from necessary evil
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RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil
Quote:Erm... they're fictitious characters Ace
Not all christians would agree.

Quote:You can't know that prayer is ineffective.
True, I cannot know. However, there is no evidence to prove that prayer works. So I have rejected the idea as nothing more than superstitious mumbo-jumbo(bullshit in other words).

Quote:To aim for something you need a goal. Resigning yourself to failure is hardly inspirational. Because we want better, as you acknowledge, we strive for it > religion.
I already have a goal. Which is to live as long and happily as possible. To do as much as I can with my limited existance. I haven't resigned myself to failer. As you haven't assured yourself success through belief in god. I strive for better but I can't see how religion can be that "better". It's a waste of time to me. Live it now and loud! That is my goal.

Quote:You clearly don't because you already said you're ok with a lower standard.
I don't remember saying that. I don't believe I've opted for a "lower standard". Just because I don't believe in god doesn't mean my standards are any lower than anyone else's.

Quote:You deal with it by realising your inability and learning to live with that.
I deal with the problems I have with sheer work and determination. I over come them. I do lack some ability to remove some problems but that doesn't stop me from trying. Even you must have problems that cannot easily be removed. We all have them.

Quote:God doesn't do it for you, it's your own choice to work with the flow or against it.
Can't follow god if I don't believe in such a thing.
I don't ask some invisible friend in the sky to "save" me from problems because I don't believe in any of it. It's not about what I choose to follow/believe but what I can do with the time and energy that I have.

Quote:You don't care about pollution? About the feelings of those girls rather than referring to them as sex objects? The sadness of war? Justice? People who lost those races? (kudos for Wales Big Grin Wink).
I care about pollution but It's beyond my control. The girls I have a little fun with do things to me even though I never asked them too. I couldn't flirt with a girl if I knew she wasn't comfortable. Peoples feelings (especially girls) I care a great deal about.
Thing is, I've never laid a finger on any of them. They pin me down and....teach me a lesson sort of thing....Angel I mean, I do have a good few girl-friends. It's just a number of them become a little horny and find me somewhat...attractive. A 30 year old women even eyed me up last week.
I can't stand war but like most people, I cannot stop it. I care about justice but that is something out of my control. I care like anyone would. Being an atheist doesn't mean I am without a life, or sex(heck no Wink), care, love, passion and goals. Being an atheist simply means I don't believe in god. That is all it is. I don't turn to religion/god for help because I'm not religious. I don't believe in god and so you can see why I don't see the point in being "saved". It's because from my point of view, there is no god, no afterlife nothing superstitious at all. Just me, my limited existance, my time and energy and my ability to choose what to do with it.

Oh and the mountins in wales that I climbed wearn't all that big. I destroyed my legs getting up there mind you, took three days before I could use them properly again. Great week that was.Big Grin
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by padraic - August 24, 2010 at 8:00 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 4:16 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 6:20 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 9:07 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 24, 2010 at 4:52 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 25, 2010 at 5:43 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Ace Otana - August 26, 2010 at 10:46 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 26, 2010 at 6:22 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 6:56 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Ace Otana - August 27, 2010 at 8:06 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by HeyItsZeus - August 24, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 10:23 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 8:30 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 9:53 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Xyster - August 27, 2010 at 10:48 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:15 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:10 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 11:02 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 29, 2010 at 8:43 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Ace Otana - August 29, 2010 at 11:58 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 10:37 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 1:10 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 1:18 pm

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